Some economic reality , You would have to be stupid to vote for any Republican for president

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    1. Since the second world war Democratic presidents produced 78.6% more jobs annually then the regressive. Here are more numbers since the WWII
    2. Real GDP is increased at a rate of 44% more then the regressives.
    3. Business investment has been 193% higher under democratic presidents.
    4. Economy grew 18.5% during a typical 4 years presidency for Democrats and only 10.2% for regressives.
    5. Average unemployment rate during democrat presidency 5.64 %average regressive 6.01%
    6. Unemployment was lowed .8% on average for Democratic presidency ,Regressives raised 1.1% on average.
    7. Annualized stock returns during Democratic presidency 8.55% Regressives 2.7%
    The latest Study of many through the years. Insert R vs D econimy_1.jpg
     
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    You can Imagine how the hate party has tried to come up with excuses why this is a fact . It's empirically impossible that this is anything other then the fact that we should never elect a hate party candidate for president. This study has been done multiple times over the years. And seen in many right leaning magazines and programs over the years.
     
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    Democrats are socialists so we know their policies could not possibly be good for the economy. Therefore, it must be the Republican capitalist influence that caused any good economic numbers. If Democrats have even one policy the can help the economy rather than harm it please name it so we can all have a good laugh.
     
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    Yet the OP shows facts and stats to show you are wrong.
    And you could not refute any 1 stat.
     
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    Stats and taking history out of context the only thing Democrats have.
     
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    Democrats and Republicans were always in office together so how could Democrats alone be responsible for good economic numbers?? Democrats are anti business socialist so they could not have helped the economy?
    Name just one Democrat policy that is helpful rather than harmful to the economy?
     
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    Point out where they are wrong.
     
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    The 1st one that did the most was way back in the 1930s. The Glass-Staegall act.
    Repealed by an R congress and sellout Bill Clinton. Bill was the D personally responsible for losing the working class of America to the D party.
    That repeal was a major reason for the housing boom and bust.
     
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    That is your best example of Democrats helping the economy??? Do you feel embarrassed?

    there is no evidence it had anything to do with housing bust. Someone told that you are dutifully repeating it

    Why The Glass-Steagall Myth Persists - Forbes
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/.../why-the-glass-steagall-myth-persists/

    Nov 12, 2012 ... There's zero evidence that this Depression-era law caused the financial crisis.
    But others, like former Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, have said the focus on Glass-Steagall is misguided. They argue other factors were more important in causing the 2008 crisis, such as bad mortgage underwriting, poor work by the ratings agencies and a securitization market gone crazy. All of that would have happened no matter the size of the big banks.

    In fact, some of the financial institutions that fared the worst, such as Bear Stearns, AIG, Lehman Brothers and Washington Mutual, weren't part of large bank holding companies at all.

    "I have often posed the following question to critics who claim that repealing Glass-Steagall was a major cause of the financial crisis: What bad practices would have been prevented if Glass-Steagall was still on the books?" wrote former Federal Reserve Vice Chairman Alan Blinder. "I've yet to hear a good answer."

    Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona teamed up to sponsor a bill that would bring back Glass-Steagall-type restrictions.

    It was never allowed to come up for a vote.

    The Short Answer:

    The 1999 changes to Glass-Steagall led to much bigger banks, but that was, at best, just one factor in the 2008 financial crisis.

    Who Caused the Economic Crisis? - FactCheck.org
    www.factcheck.org/2008/10/who-caused-the-economic-crisis/

    Oct 1, 2008 ... Moreover, the bill had nothing to do with causing the crisis, and economists ...Street's financial crisis, partisans on both sides got busy – pointing fingers. ... That was seen as a signal that Glass-Steagall was a dead letter as a ..


    Some (like Hillary Clinton) who oppose reinstating a modern Glass-Steagall-like law(which Sens. Elizabeth Warren and John McCain support) claim its repeal had little if anything to do with the 2008 financial crash and the economic meltdown it caused. They point to the so-called shadow banking system of Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, AIG and others nonbanks that would not have been subject to it. Even Paul Krugman recently wrote, “repealing Glass-Steagall was indeed a mistake. But it’s not what caused the financial crisis, which arose instead from ‘shadow banks’ like Lehman Brothers, which don’t take deposits but can nonetheless wreak havoc when they fail.
     
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    All wrong because they assume president is the government and he controls the economy while he is in office. Economy runs in long cycles. For example, Obama inherited bust from Bush 43 while Clinton inherited boom from Bush 41. Do you understand??
     
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    Maybe there is a correlation, but not all of that correlation necessarily implies causation.

    For example, as just one hypothetical example, there could be a lag time that correlates to the resulting effects of each party's policies. Or the election of Republicans could be reactionary to the state of the economy (where there is a causation but it's the reverse of what you thought). We need to be looking at other possible explanations, and some of them could turn out to be fairly complicated, which isn't uncommon in the field of economics and political phenomena.
     
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    Weak! Nothing in this comment.
     
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    From a party who's members couldn't recognize a lie if it bit them in the ass, how else could these ring noises have elected, Scum Bag. The ultimate liar, in fact a chronic liar. I can just as easily show proof that he is a liar as I can prove that he's a Scum Bag, hundreds of videos of him proving it for everyone.
     
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    The number one is trying to stop the hate party for writing tax law and law to distribute every nickle of this countries increased wealth to the few at the top the group that totally controls them.That is the worst thing for the future o f capitalism. Something they have achievedfor 35 years straight. Ad in the fact that supply side doesn't work as well as demand side economics does and again the hate party wanting to take every dime away for this countries safety net to hand it all to the wealthy, which of course is what every one of the hate party's budget proposals show. This will destroy our economic system by moving everything to the top. You can't take the promise of the chance to get ahead , capitalism won't continue with out it/
    By the way there is no way to refute the numbers , they can be found in many studies through the years and the numbers are so far apart that it is impossible for it to be anything other then your stupid if you try to elect hate party candidates as presidents.
     
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    Once again where did his lies cost me money like from the biggest liar of all Obama and his Obama Grubber care lie?

    When Trump does something like that, then you can talk.


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    How does taxing the wealthy raise wages for the middle class?

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    100% stupid and liberal of course the top 1% pay 40% of all taxes not 1% in a massive distribution of wealth to the lower class.
     
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    If you need something at the top of the list that crashed the economy. Deregulation of wall street, the banks and financial by Bush the baby killer will be at the top. These where the groups that where heavily involved in the Bushes/ Right wing almost total collapse of our economy. I always know when people explain that the reason the economy collapsed, without including credit default swaps, that they know very little about what caused it.
     
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    Supply side does not work?? We got from the Stone Age to here because Republican supply siders supplied all the inventions that made it possible. A liberal apparently believes that if the government had printed trillions of dollars back in the Stone Age I t would've resulted in the invention of all the great new products
     
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    Sorry buddy, I know this just kills you but the fact is the numbers are so far apart that it is statistically impossible to be anything other then , your stupid if you elect a hate party candidate as president.
     
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    Ya kind of, except when the numbers are so far apart, statistically it becomes impossible to be anything other then a fact. This just kills the hate party members. It buries everything they claim about their party and the economy.
     
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    Wrong and liberal of course at the time of the vollapseFannie Freddie ownef 75% of all the all the Alt A and subprime mortgage and those that they didn't own they guaranteed on they guaranteed. Without that no one would've touched those mortgages. Further without the Federal Reserve trying to stimulate the economy with low interest-rate's there would've been no money to bubble up the housing market The subject is called economics and it is miles over the Liberals head
     
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    I wonder what Reagan and the hate party thought was going to happen when he lowered the top tax rate from 70% to 28%. and Corporate tax from 46% to 34% and with his tax cuts for personal and corporations made it quite easy for the wealthy to pay nothing to a few % points. less by far then the middle class.
     
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    Notice has a typical ignorant liberal you had no ability whatsoever to respond to the substance of my post. What do you learn from your evasion about your liberal intelligence??
     
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    Are you going to answer the question which was about how further taxing the rich would help the middle class. If you lack the intelligence to be here why are you here. You should just listen or read or ask questions until you are able to participate
     

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