Some economic reality , You would have to be stupid to vote for any Republican for president

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    Good grief if you can get what the government needs to operate more from one group then from another , it increases the money in one of their pockets, golly gee , you didn't know that.
     
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    You keep calling the Republican Party the hate party can you explain why you do that??do you have any idea at all why you do that
     
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    The top 10% pay 85% of all the money the federal government collects. The poor and middle-class pay virtually nothing. The top 1% pay 45% Of all the personal income tax the IRS collects. Now do you understand?
     
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    Ok supply side hero tell me what Supply side economics can do to stimulate the economy by increasing demand. We just went through that with business sticking it under the mattress and admitting it by saying if there is no demand why would they increase production to gain jobs.
     
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    I see the stats really got to you. That's a win for me.
     
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    Sure I would be glad to, what would you call a party that elected a hate candidate for president. There you go, always ready to please.
     
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    So tell me, banks and financial lied to Freddy and fanny about the level of the quality of the mortgages that they had bundled, and Gov. was stupid not checking the bundles quality and much of these funds were excepted by the government an financial because they were Guarantee. . That guarantee was credit default swaps. Protecting the bundles. Except the problem was the value of the bundles was way below the insured rate, causing the the sellers of the swaps to owe billions of dollars and protecting the buyers of the swaps to the extent of the money that they sellers had. They took all that they had and they had the right to.
     
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    Love it, come undone a little more ,it's fun to watch.
     
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    Corporations pay 10% of their revenue in taxes , in the 50's they spent 33%, payroll tax has gone from about 10% of the U.S. total revenue in the 50"s to 33% now
     
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    What by magic? No please tell me how taxing the rich increase what I make per hour... because I don't have a clue what you are saying..


    All I see is gold plated faucets in government bath rooms and more $10,000 dollar hammers



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    They stuck it under a mattress because of a anti business president and Obama care


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    And all I see is gold plated bricks for heads on the wanky right. Now I'll tell you a little secret, if tax law and laws moves every penny of increased wealth in this country to the top then you will get none of it. Einstein. We just had 35 years of massive transfer of wealth to the top. The top few in this country got every penny of increased wealth for the last 35 years. This can't be argued.Are you going to try to tell me they deserve it somehow. or they worked harder or became smarter all of a sudden . You people are a laugh a minute. You will destroy this country if it continues . Capitalism will cease to exist without the promise of the chance to get ahead. The right wing wants to give every penny of the increase of wealth in this country to the top few. That's what they want , it is not fast enough for them, so literally everything they do is to give it all to their controllers. These people will destroy this country for their pocket books. Take every thing they can get away with from this countries safety net for the old , and sick and needy and hand every penny of it directly to the top.
     
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    Ya sure, what a dingbat comment. If he was so bad for business why did they do so well during his presidency and why did the market move up 150% during his presidency.. What in the hell does Obama care have to do with this. Your comment is a mental fart.
     
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    What a nonsensical reply.
    The GOP is stuck on stupid - they keep peddling "trickle down" which only helps the rich.
    Bimbo Bush and the GOP damn near gave us another depression - spending like a new bride with a credit card.
     
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    All that to tell me you don't have a clue how taxing the rich does not equal the middle class wages will go up..

    Bottom line either private citizens will be rich or government officials will be rich that's all you have in this world


    Pick your poison


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    It wasn't to long ago ever hear of quantitive easing?


    Look it up .


    Obamacare was a huge drain on the recovery and so was Obama with his other policies that were anti business.



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    You don't have a clue period.
    You or anyone trying to justify the disaster that your hate party has played on the American worker over the last 35 years. That's 35 years of the largest profits in our history, where did it go? It was handed directly to the minute few who control the hate party. No one gained **** except the people that the right said could gain it and they got this without becoming smarter, working harder or making great moves in the market- these blood suckers got it because the hate party gave it to them. That's what the hate party wants for this country , 35 more years of all the new wealth of the richest country in the world going to a small part of our population and just like the last 35 year. They want to massively increase debt to everyone just trying to feed and put a roof over the heads of their family. The hate party has to go and their plans for massive cuts to the needy to hand directly over to the wealthy has to go also. And never forget who put this monster in the presidents chair. There has never been anyone close to be as cruel and hateful as their slime bag president. If they get their way they will destroy us all even themselves by killing the golden goose. Capitalism can not exist ithout the promise of the potential to get ahead . Something the hate party has taken away from the workers in this country. The people of this country have gained nothing except massively increasing debt to everyone except to the golden few.
     
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    Have you ever heard of stupid haters , look it up. The highest profits in history and the highest percentage of gross that was profit in history and the highest GDP in history and the markets went up 145% during Obama's 8 years in office. . so your comment is just simply stupid.
     
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    He lowered the top tax bracket from 91% to 65% and he proposes to lower the business tax from 52% to 47% but didn't because business did so well on the 52% that it was a hard sell to change it. so this is what you call a supply sider, Fine I'm with you all the way , we will go back to Kennedy's tax bracket,. Now don't you feel just kind of stupid? The right wing builds it's own history , they believe that lies and distortions are great tools that have to be used for the good of , themselves , oops I mean for mankind.
     
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    Trickle down capitalism gave 200 million Americans smart phone super computers in their pockets at $140 a month whereas trickle down welfare, what Democrats want, can't do nothing But cripple more Americans. Do you understand
     
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    Bush didn't give us another depression. The housing crisis was caused by massive interference with the free-market thanks to democratic policies. Healthcare is a similar disaster and again because of massive liberal interference in the free-market. Do you see the parallel. Have you ever heard of east/west Germany?
     
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    You totally misunderstand Republicans don't give money to anyone they get out of the way and let the free market allocate money to whoever earns it. It's a very free country if you don't want the people at Apple to have so much money then stop buying their products what you propose is more government violence wherein they hold a gun to peoples heads and force them to turn over their income. That's not Freedom. Now certainly you understand?
     
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    Listen hater, its like all things , you don't get what you want you get what the law proscribes , and scumbags in this country need to have laws written for them, so they don't eat our children for the sake of their holy Capitalistic bottom line. You live in a civilized country but like all haters you want to turn this into it's everything for me world. The scum like Small hands are people who would do anything for the bottom line and just say it's good capitalism. You seem to be one of those scum bags. So I'm not telling you something that you don't already know, Just for a point of interest would you kill someone for the rewards of capitalism.
    Your stupid Idea of what freedom is is taking it all and forget the rest, from the sick the old the needy. I know your side is made up of many scum bags that think that way but every good person will try to stop you and we have been able to to a point for a long time. You can't have it all and you will pay taxes. So with that your world is destroyed.
     
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    Is this the clown act you bring here all the time?? Stupid non sensible questions. You don't have a clue. The 8 years of Obama brought us the highest Stock market ever going up 145%. The largest profits by far in our history and the largest percentage of gross that was profit in history. Add in the highest GDP in history. So your Obama Remark is as stupid as all your other comments. We have to remember what this thread is all about , me proving without a doubt the unquestionable truth is that you have to be stupid to put a hate party candidate in the white house. What a dismal track record, those right wing presidents would have gained more if they didn't do anything. Now that's pitiful.
     

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