Some predictions and miscellaneous for 2012 and beyond

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  1. Lady Luna

    Lady Luna New Member

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    I went to a psychic fair yesterday to hear some free lectures. One of the speakers is a clairvoyant who makes predictions that are very accurate. I knew him before he quit his corporate job to do readings for a living, and he is very good.

    Anyway, he said so many things that I had to agree with about the economy, the banks, OWS, and other things. He said we are being told lies by MSNBC and Fox (which I already knew), and that the OWS isn't made up of the type of people the media is portraying (which I already knew), and that this movement has gone beyond its original intent, and will spread. He sees it as a positive thing, and mentioned how over 600,000 people recently moved their money out of the banks as a result of that movement, and that amounted to something like 4 billion dollars. He said the media is making us believe that we are powerless to do anything about the injustices, but that isn’t true, and moving all that money out of the banks was just an example of the power the people have.

    He said the borders between Canada, the US, and Mexico will be gone in around 2 years. He also said that whenever there is a lot of negative activity like wars, the earth fights back with things like earthquakes, and the New Madrid fault is going to have a big one, I think he said within a year. He said insurance companies, banks, and corporations hire people like him to learn what the future will bring, so they know what is coming, and he said something very interesting in relation to that:

    He had been after his mother to purchase earthquake insurance. She procrastinated, so he called to find out how much it would be, and it was $20.00 a month. He kept after her, and she kept procrastinating until she finally called them a few months later. The premium was now $200 a month!

    He also said that the US is carrying the world and that it spiritually will be able to life it all up. (I can’t remember the exact words, but that is something I have always believed, too, that the US is special and has a Divine mission.) He said the US is the New Jerusalem the Bible talks about! I haven’t read that part of the Bible, but will because I’m curious now.

    He named someone he knows personally who built a car that runs on water and produces no polluting emissions. When the inventor tried to patent it, he was told that he would have to create the vehicle entirely out of things that hasn’t been patented. He did. Then when he tried to patent it, the government classified it as a matter of national security because if this car were made available, oil is so much a part of the global economy that the financial world would collapse. He also knows about a car someone invented that runs on compressed air.

    That’s all I can think of. BTW I tried to buy earthquake insurance several months ago because my insurance company stopped including it in my policy, and I was told it is unavailable for a manufactured home, even though it and flood insurance were covered until about 2 years ago when they removed them from the policy without lowering the premium at all!

    Now that I wrote all this, I just checked LaMonte’s website, and he has lots of predictions there: http://worldpsychic.org/
     
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    Do yo0u believe this stuff or is it just for fun?

    The New Jerusalem is a spiritual new age.. that arrived circa 135 AD.. NOT a brick and mortar city.
     
  3. Lady Luna

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    I went for fun to meet friends and hear what the different speakers had to say. One cannot believe everything a psychic says, of course, but some people have impressive abilities and rates of accuracy, and I count some of them as my friends. It makes for some fascinating discussions!
     
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    Although I don't buy any of the psychic mumbo-jumbo, those predictions are easy enough to test. We'll come back in two years and see if the borders between the US, Canada, and Mexico are gone.

    The car running on water story sounds like urban legend nonsense. I would love to see the letter from the patent office denying the patent as a matter of national security.
     
  5. Lady Luna

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    That's one indication, for sure. His website lists predictions he has made and which have come true or not.

    I'd like more details, too, but it was interesting. I wouldn't put it past our government to do something like that if there were such a car, because it would put many of their corporate donors out of business.

    There have been various medical devices invented that can cure various illnesses, but the FDA bans them for the same reason - sickness is big business, and they won't allow anything that would cut down on the amount of doctor visits and drugs. The FDA has become a watchdog for the medical and pharmaceutical cartels to prevent competition in the same way that Congress is being used to stifle small businesses who compete with the mega-corporations.
     
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    I dunno... I guess I would have to see examples of a miracle device or drug that is curing people worldwide that is banned here to see if they were the real deal or, like Laetrile, a hoax drug.
     
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    One cannot believe anything a con man says.
     
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    he is right about the earthquakes but he uses smarts as a trick to make his predictions like many psychics do

    there is going to be more fracking for natural gas and that will cause earthquakes and the oil pollution will cause more storms and climate change
     
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    Some people are actually very good at predicting the future. You can't believe a lot of the people who claim to be psychic, only a few of them actually have the real gift.
     
  10. Lady Luna

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    I agree. There are a lot of charlatans, but some people truly have the gift. Some of my friends are very intuitive, and I enjoy being able to call them up when I have a question because they are very good, and I don't have to pay since we're friends. :sun: One is a gifted tarot reader, but he can tell things without the cards. The other,whom I'll call G, is just incredibly psychic. Here's just one example:

    On the last day of my visit to see my parents out west in March, my father woke up blind (he wasn't blind before) and I had to fly home. Mom took Dad to the ER while I went to the airport. During the layover at my next stop, I called G to tell her about my Dad, and she said the reason he was blind was due to cancerous lesions in his brain. She said he had cancer that had traveled to his brain. She saw four lesions, and one was causing the blindness.

    That night Mom called and told me the results of the tests. Dad had a melanoma that had metastasized to his brain, and there were too many tumors all over, so it was inoperable. Four of the lesions were bleeding. Yes, some people are gifted.

    Here is an example of a charlatan:

    I only stayed to hear two speakers at the fair, and the other one besides LaMonte was a woman who claimed to see past lives. She gave a short "past life reading" for each member in the audience. My BS detector went off the whole time. G and another intuitive friend were in the back of the room cracking up when the woman was talking about the alleged past lives she saw. Afterward when G asked me for my impression of the "past life reader", I said that the woman was full of (*)(*)(*)(*), they said they knew, and that's why they were laughing. The woman had a very creative imagination, but she wasn't reading past lives. :-D
     
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    If someone makes 50,000 predictions and 20 come true they are considered Psychic. If a person tells you to buy insurance and the rates go up, they are psychic, if they tell you to buy insurance and something happens to make you need insurance, they are psychic. Do you see any relationship between these things?
     
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    I assume you don't believe that anyone can predict the future?
     
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    I am not remotely " Psychic" but am well read and aware of the aids for making sound judgements like profiling and statistical analysis .
    If there is one thing that stands out with great clarity , it is the imminent disintegration of the US and Western Europe in financial and economic terms .Forget Global knock-on effects for another time and topic .
    Given the very basic problems associated with debt , the US has been bankrupt for some considerable time and there is no solution to a total debt scenario which is in excess of $50 trillion once you factor in the costs of Medicare , Pensions and Benefits --- but conveniently ignored when Sovereign Debt is officially presented , (at the still mind boggling level of $14 trillion and growing ) .
    QE3 might buy Banks a little more time before they start to fall like stricken Redwoods .
    But they will fail and fall . That is the nature of being unable to pay an acceptable return on debt and to lose investor trust and be labelled Not Credit Worthy . The loss of a Triple A rating in the next few months will signal the start of the financial Tsunami and quite conceivably before the New Year .
    It was always going to be the Eurozone that fell first and whatever short term measures are taken to ring fence Italian obligations , the collapse of some French Banks ( unless bailed out by the Federal Reserve as they did with QE1 and 2) plus Spain ( next month onwards but definitely by early of this coming year) will spell out the Euro death knell , at least in it's present form .

    Blah , blah ,blah .
    But the net result will be Depression -- not just recession --- and far worse than the US Great Depression of the 30's .
    In comparison , other "predictions" seem minor in character once you start working through living and working implications for the "ordinary" person .
    Europeans seem only to be beginning to appreciate the ruing scenario but at a popular level the US cannot or does not want to see what is about to role them over forever and force changes that many will not even live through .
    I was called a Jeremiah and much more when I pointed all of this out --- along with others --- three years ago . I was " on my own" and apparently not quite the " full ticket" .
    Now events are unfolding exactly as they were always going to and my " Psychic" call is no longer ridiculed . At least by those with eyes that truly see .
    Just keep watching folks . You will not have to wait much longer before the Action unfolds , with a 90% chance of certainty , regardless of any corrective measures that anybody has yet dreamt of .

    All imho , naturally .
     
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    There is no need for someone to be psychic to make the kind of predictions on that site with the level of (in)accuracy he apparently demonstrates (and even that's assuming he's putting up all of his failed past predictions). He's predicting earthquakes in areas already known to be susceptible to them, illness and deaths of old and often already ill individuals and political events which are already likely based on known events and circumstances. He predictions are, not surprisingly, no more accurate that those of anyone who studies the relevant evidence and comes to a rational conclusion. I think a key factor is that he charges for access to he blog so my prediction is that this is a money-making scam.

    In general terms, there is absolutely zero concrete evidence to support the existence of actual psychic powers - any ability to definitively access information an individual would have no access to at all. There is lots of evidence of people who can make incisive predictions based on apparently limited source information with relative accuracy (consciously or subconsciously) but there is no reason to assume that isn't a perfectly temporal, mundane function of the human mind.

    Maybe if we focused of some of those real wonders we could get further than coming up with fantasy explanations for anything we don't understand (of course, that instinct is a function of the same wonderful human mind too).
     
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    I agree that many people can make accurate predictions based on events that are in the news. That is obvious IMO. However, when G told me what was happening to my Dad before any tests had even been run, and the results turned out to be exactly what she had seen, that was a good example of someone who truly has psychic ability.
     
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    It never ceases to amaze me how gullible some people are.

    Notice how these con artists can never predict anything useful like tomorrows lottery numbers.
     
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    They can predict one thing with absolute certainty - there's one born every minute and a fool and his money are easy parted.

    There is a serious scientific study of this kind of cobblers by real scientists at Edinburgh University. I saw one of the scientists interviewed a week ago. She said they really do take every report seriously and investigate everything as the implications if any shred of evidence is ever obtained, are potentially important. She then confirmed that not one single shred of evidence has ever been found. No ghosts. No "psychic" abilities. They don't exist in one single person anywhere in the entire world.

    It's total rubbish from beginning to end. People who con others in this way, should be locked up and people who believe in it need their heads looked. As entertainment, it is possibly justifiable, but as a way to make money out of the vulnerable and emotionally unstable, it is quite wrong.

    However, the study of self-deception could be interesting and probably has many worthwhile applications for the successful con man (why do people enjoy fooling themselves...).

     
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    Alternatively, it could have been confirmation bias. The key difference is that confirmation bias has a clear mechanism and has been proven to exist.
     
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    You couldn't even predict that it was going to be two things. :p
     
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    I do love that quote by P.T. Barnum;

    There is a sucker born every minute and a fool and his money are soon parted.
     
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    Actually the nonsense about the water burning care is an urban legend that reappears about every 15 to 20 years, this is the forth time in my life it has been popular.
    It seems like every so often some wise guy finds out that if you mix nail polish remover (acetone) with water it will run an internal combustion engine FOR A SHORT TIME. It is super hot and very soon burns the pistons and valves up.

    Someday someone my invent an inexpensive and small method of separating the hydrogen from the oxygen in water and using it as a fuel for an auto. The auto would be fueled by HYDROGEN, but the origin of the hydrogen would be WATER. That is the only way, that an internal combustion engine can be fueled by water.

    Never forget that bottled water is as much as ten times as expensive as gasoline, so I am unsure what the benefit of using water in an auto would be.
     
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    Every day we have an of 2,600 measured earthquakes. EVERY DAY! LOL, Earthquakes are not new, have always occurred a huge number of times per year. Anyone who predicts earthquakes will always be right. That is how the psychic nuts fool people. Maybe I should not say nuts, they are actually as someone else already said, CON MEN.
     
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    No one can predict the future. Some people can look at current trends and make good guesses about what MIGHT happen, but NO one can predict the future. Anyone who could actually do that would be so rich that Bill Gates would appear to be a pauper.
     
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    I have heard this nonsense all my life and never seen any proof of it, it is hokum, nonsense, lies or coincidence and never anything else.
    I amazed at the nonsense people will believe. There is no such thing as a PSYCHIC GIFT.
     
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    I never assume anything, but I KNOW that no one can predict the future, that prophecy is nonsense.
     

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