Some Pro Athletes do try to make a positive difference

http://politifeed.net/culture/nfl-p...ut-his-money-where-his-mouth-is-to-save-lives

Nice to see a prominent figure call out the lies of the so called “pro- life” crowd. Abortion is a wanton deliberate homicide. It should be banned!

“He continued, “We sit here and talk about advancing the black agenda, whatever thjvat means, we talk about our interests, and what’s important to us – like having political power and advancement and all those things – and then we are turning around and we are killing our children, and we are buying the lie that it’s our personal decision to make.”

 

It would definitely improve black communities if tens of thousands of extra children were born that their mothers both can’t afford and don’t want.

 

I have never understood the argument that slaughtering children somehow improves a community. Obviously, looking around today, that is not true!

Seems that the disregard for human life that accompanies it is contagious.

 

I know black communities having lots more children they are neither affordable not wanted would be great for their prosperity.

 

Doesn't seem to be helping poor communities now to kill their children in utero. Not getting pregnant in the first place would allow them to have a clean conscience and improve their financial situation. That is a MUCH better game plan.

 

It’d be better if nobody ever broke the law rather than criminals being caught and sent to prison but unless we could somehow achieve a zero crime rate, we’ll still need the option of prison as at least worst option to the imperfect circumstances that will inevitable come up. Prison isn’t a good thing but we can’t simply get rid of it.

I can support ideas to reduce unwanted pregnancies and the circumstances in which pregnancies become unwanted (not that you or he offered any) while at the same time accepting abortion as a least worst option in some situations.

 

With so many families adopting, and many having to go overseas to find options, using abortion as a means of dealing with the inability to afford a child just doesn’t make sense. And don’t even try the race card here. Many whit families in the auS have adoption black children from other countries.

Sorry I just cannot be that flippant about taking the life of a human being.

 

There is no shortage of children in need of adoption in America. People don’t adopt from overseas because there is no one to adopt here.

 

Prove it! I don’t believe that is true.
Nevertheless, there has still been no legitimate reason that justifies child homicide presented yet, by anyone!

 

So every single orphanage and foster home should be empty if your assertion is correct, yes?

 

Here you go!

https://www.adoptuskids.org/

He bought an ultrasound machine. Wow! It is not up to you to determine what reason is legitimate. It is none of your business.

 

Nope, that would be a flaw in logic on your part. I never said the system Is perfect, but the fact remains that “ I can’t afford my baby” is not justification to kill him or her!

 

WRONG again!

Homicides are always society’s business and should never be left to the whims of one individual!

 

Well I said nothing about "inability to afford a child" for a start. I’m not commenting on what the legitimate reasons abortion might be necessary here, I was just challenging your implication that, however desirable it would be to prevent any unwanted pregnancy in the first place, it is never going to entirely happen and never alone entirely eliminate situations where abortion is a considered option.

I think you are being flippant though. You argue against the generic concept of abortion existing but you’re not doing anything that would positive impact the actual lives of the people involved. It’s the difference between just chanting “No abortion!” and having viable ideas and plan to reduce the instance that are actually applicable in the real world.

 

So then you admit that there are children in America that can be adopted even though Americans adopt children from other countries?

 

Now if you could just prove that banning abortion actually stops abortion....it doesn't.


What's this dude going to do about it?

Make safe affordable accessible birth control free to all who want it?

Raise wages so people can afford to have children without having to go on Welfare?


Perform a miracle and make pregnancy NOT harmful to women?

Perform a miracle and eliminate all birth defects?


Have all men sterilized at birth?

 

If the mothers make them available, as opposed to killing the children, then maybe so many wouldn’t have to go overseas.

And the laws should change is the US making it not so difficult and expensive to adopt. That would be a better place to place effort as opposed to sqwawking that child homicide is a viable option.

 

Well the tuth is you don’t know a damn thing about what I am or am not doing to make a “positive difference “! But I do know that encouraging them to kill their offspring is making a negative difference. No question about that.

Who cares if it entirely happens? Nothing entirely happens! You are devolving to that illogical idea that we should allow it unless we can completely eliminate it. That logic would make gun murders legal, along with any number of other horrific things wayward people do!

 

They don’t have to go overseas now. There are children in need of adoption in the US.

 

RME

Did making gun murders eliminate them? I’ll help you out, the answer is no!

Does that mean we should make gun murders legal?
I’ll let you answer that one. I am curious what your answer might be.

Safe affordable birth control is already available free to anyone who wants it.

Abortion is just as harmful if not more so than pregnancies.

 

The red tape is ridiculous and the expense is prohibitive, then the mother can change her mind at the last minute. These things should change. Perhaps you can get behind that instead of supporting abortion.

 

Ah, okay there’s the goal post move, but at least you aren’t sticking by the false claim that they are forced to adopt from overseas because there are no children needing adoption in America.

Now the real question is: did you only just find this out or did you know all along and were lying?

BTW, you want to cut the checks that make sure that children don’t end up with abusers or into substandard living conditions?

 

I agree. Is anyone actually encouraging black people to kill their offspring? Is that kind of exaggerated rhetoric in any way constructive?

But all you’re doing in this thread (and all the selected quote in the OP is doing) is moaning about the existence of abortion, specifically the existence of abortion for black women.

Ultimately abortion is a consequence of a problem (or more likely a whole series of problems). I don’t think focusing on abortion is beneficial in any way, the focus should be on the underlying problems. Those problems are many-fold, complicated, difficult to address, unending and ultimately relatively boring, which is why there’s rarely any widespread interest in them unless there is some kind of profitable controversy to be spun out of them.

 

If you want to imagine goal posts I suppose you can, but let’s get back to the matter at hand. The senseless wanton killing of children in utero.

LOL so you aren’t saying it is a financial thing.....until you are! That is hilarious! So you think financial motives and self serving “ well the kid may be abused” theories are justification for homicide?

That would require a simple yes or no answer.

 

So what you are saying is we should focus on some unknown undefinable underlying reasons, how would one go about doing that?