Some Pro Athletes do try to make a positive difference

Yeah, your actual post proves I didn’t say what you claim. RME

 

Good. Since you didn't mean that allowing abortion opens the door to allowing gun murder, we can get back on topic.

The topic is "Making a difference" not making claims to care, or excuses for not providing care for those you claim to care about. Did you ever click that adoption link I posted?

If you will excuse me, I have to go put on a hat and claim I care about something that doesn't require effort on my part.

 

You should have never veered off topic in the first place!
Speaking out against injustice is making a difference!!!

If you don’t care that isn’t my problem.

 

If you look back, I was replying to your distraction. I don't mind because no matter which direction you run, you will always hit that wall of reality, reminding you that you have achieved nothing. Doing what you have been doing has produced ZERO results and you are doing nothing more than being a living example of the definition of insanity.

Do you have an example of where your "speaking out" made a difference?

 

Nope, you were misreading my post and throwing some sort of irrational tantrum.

I managed to get those who want to continue the myth that abortion isn’t a homicide all panty wadded. That is something! Thankfully I don’t have to rely on the opinions if people who haven’t thought this through, like yourself, to determine whether or not I made a positive difference!

 

I know that being exposed is not pleasant, but I hope you will eventually realize that saying something does nothing, and that doing something makes a difference. Sure, you may pump your fists in victory because you were able to justify which vocabulary word you choose to describe abortion, but it changes nothing. It is the law of the land no matter what you call it and in the end, you can talk and enter text every second of every day for a thousand years and still end up with the exact same result you have now. Nothing. You have done nothing.

It is not my opinion that you have done nothing that made a positive difference; I asked you and you have shown that it is a fact.

If you will excuse me, I have to go claim I care about the environment by insisting that others do the work! I care sooo much, I am willing to let you work twice as hard to clean up!

 

Well the reason to know that is because it isn’t pleasant when YOU are exposed!

LOL I love being exposed, that means the truth is getting out !

 

Yes. The truth is that your claim to care about these precious humans is only to project an image. When faced with questions on what actions (Not words) you are willing to contribute to help these little lives, you have nothing.

I am glad you enjoyed being exposed.

If you will excuse me, I have to go claim I care about something I am not willing to work for.

 

Why do you have to go to do that, you pretend to care right here every day! You ramble about illogical irrational nonsense and pretend to care all the time!
Sit tight, no need to go anywhere!

 

I was talking with my adopted daughter last night. She came from an abusive home and we have always talked about her helping others who had a similar childhood. She graduated college and is pursuing her career in psychology so she can help others. Instead of talking and posting, she is making a difference.

My other adopted daughter, like me, loves animals. Over the years, she brought home abandoned animals and at one time, we had 9 cats and 7 dogs. She is currently in school to become a veterinarian.

My mother taught me that if I wasn't willing to do something about it, I wasn't allowed to claim I care. I would never let my kids get away with what you are doing.

In spite of your efforts, you have convinced no one that you have a genuine concern for human life. If only you tried to convince the man you see in the mirror everyday. Look him in the eye and ask: What are you doing about it?

 

Did you ask her if she would have preferred to be aborted?

I am not trying to convince the closed minded of anything. You misinterpret what I am trying to do here.

You can not justify an action by wildly flailing around trying to demonize people who
Logically explain why the action is wrong.

Momma should have taught you that!

 

I am not demonizing you. I am simply pointing out that the ability to explain why you believe something is wrong, has zero value towards making it right.

And yes, she wished she was never born many times while living in an abusing home. She is making her mission in life to help others going through the same.

There are talkers and there are doers.

 

Nope! Speculating that I haven’t done anything to make a difference, then using that as your go to debate position is clearly trying to demonize the guy you cannot beat in a debate on the actual merits of abortion.

It is a typical left wing tactic when the inevitable collapse of their debate position occurs.

Your opinion that expressing logically why abortion is wrong has no chance of making it right is simply incorrect!

 

Your position was beaten long before you and I had this discussion. I am not on the left; I am an independent. Both parties have their own reasons for trying to deny liberty. Reps want to force their beliefs on abortion, homosexuality, religion,, while Dems want to deny 1st, and 2nd amendment rights as well as steal more of the fruits of our labor.

I would not call what you are doing a debate; its more like a tantrum. You want to debate, I will even give you the following advantages:

Abortion is murder
Abortion should be outlawed

I will not challenge you on these points, but will ask you how you propose you solve the issues that would result from outlawing abortion:

Medical tourism
Back alley abortions
Abortion drugs
Death due to infection because she was afraid of going to prison
Imprisoning women and doctors

Even if you can solve those issues, (My challenge is that you cannot) how would you deal with the thousands of children when we don't have loving homes for those currently in need?

 

This is a good question. Since many of us do the metrics on a subject to determine efficacy, how many abortions did you stop, and have you adopted any children that would have been aborted?

 

Never said you are on the left, but you are acting like a lefty.

You apparently don’t understand the meaning of the word debate. You lost the debate long ago, something you also seem unable to comprehend.

There will always be problems with poor and underprivileged people, I don’t think killing them is an appropriate answer. Not so sure you feel the same way.

 

Irrelevant white rabbit. Abortion is either morally right or wrong.

Is it acceptable to kill underprivileged people because their life is tough?

 

For some people it's morally acceptable and for some people it isn't...the ones who think it isn't have no right to foist their ideas off on others...


Most morals would become stronger if people just tended their own and let others do the same...

 

I am an independent thinker. You lost the debate long before you and I met. While I may agree that abortion is wrong, righteousness is never a good reason for denying freedom and liberty. It is her body and what she does with it is none of the governments business. This is settled law.

I did try to engage you in debate, but you ran from all of my questions. It is funny to hear you saying that I am acting like a lefty when you are the one who is claiming victory over a debate we never had. Here's your participation trophy!

 

Wrong! In the case of homicide, which is undeniably what abortion is, society gets to decide whether it will allow immoral behavior. This is commonly referred to as the law.

 

So using your logic, why do we deny people the right to commit gun murders? So what if we think it is wrong, just because we think it is wrong we don’t have the right to force that opinion on others right?

Once again, I don’t think you know what the word debate means.

 

No, laws are not based on your morals nor anyone else's.


And our society , the majority, think abortion should be legal....and it is

 

You are wrong, once again. My opinion is based on my strong belief in liberty. If your opinion has no place in another person's uterus, what makes you think your bullet has a place in another person's body?

The thread title is about making a difference. What are you proposing?

 

Laws are based on morals, undeniably. The morals society believes warrant codifying into law.

Actually you have no idea how much of America thinks abortion should be legal, it has never been put to a vote!

 

if that person shoots the bullet into herself, how can she blame someone else?