Someone quietly bombs Syria now

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  1. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...wo-air-bases-state-tv-hezbollah-idUSKBN1HN327

    Israel is having fun tonight? Missile strike and no one announced it!
     
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    You know what? The world is a cruel joke, this might as well happen. Let's throw in another missile for no reason, but this time there's not even any of the political bullshit, we're just stripping it to the core. Kafka wishes he could come up a world this coldly irrational.
     
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    That's a ridiculous statement... "for no reason", there's every reason to bomb the crap out of Hezbollah's chemical weapons and ballistic missile supplies, especially if you're the target
     
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    seems like the Israel missiles are easier to detect and not as cloak as the us
    is
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, They actually shot down an Israeli F16. I was a surprised.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    The Arabs fired 25 Missles at the F16 .. the pilot escaped 24 ..
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    What kind of missiles? Do you know?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    These strikes have been occurring pretty much daily by multiple sources on multiple targets...no idea why this one is getting attention or why Israel comes into it as the culprit. Could just as well be The U.S.
     
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    Israel's attacks have nothing to do with chemical weapons. She is after Iran's bases in Syria. This may be her just picking up on where she was when the chemical weapons were found and the US was thinking of Regime change and by so doing sort out this problem for Israel. Israel had killed 7 Iranians with her attack on one of their bases in Israel and Russia had told Israel it would not accept any more. Anyway just woken up so haven't been able to look at this but it has nothing to do with chemical weapons. It looks without checking, and I have to say I thought this was just an April fool at first, but at first look it looks like Israel is doing what the US chose not to do - risking a confrontation with Russia but I need to check things and may well be wrong.
     
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    https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...trike-Golan-Heights-USA-UK-France-Iran-Russia
     
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    Alexa... no... just no..I have no idea how you arrived at what you just posted but ..... no.
    Israel have been bombing Chemical weapons factories long before the US, Britain and France

    It is also highly likely that the intel for these bases have been given to the US, Britain and France by Israel.

    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/9/8/16273512/israel-syria-chemical-weapons-iran-hezbollah-factory
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Mmmmm no....
    The Media said "Anti aircraft missles" , probabaly Russian missles SA-17 or SA-8
     
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    “If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more ‎violence. If the Jews put ‎down their weapons ‎today, there would be no ‎more Israel'‎”
     
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    If you had been watching Israel news over the past week you would know that all they are talking about is attacking Iranian bases in Syria. Putin had warned Israel they would accept no more attacks on Iranian bases in Syria after the one recently on T4 which killed 7 Iranians. That was before the West were interested about chemical attacks.

    This is Middle East Eye on this one

    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/s...rcept-missiles-over-homs-state-media-49327095

    Iran, from the Israelli side has been what this has all been about regardless of whether she has been saying she has been hitting chemical sites or even if she has and that is what Russia said no to after the T4 and the killing of the Iranians and during the last few days if you had checked out Israeli sites you would have found that that was what they were talking about - should we go? can we go again? will Russia stop us from going?

    This attack which seems to have been mainly repelled by Syria kind of feels like at best it is a check to see how much Russia will allow. Russia did seem to be allowing Israel to attack things she needed to for her perceived National Security but Israel were unsure that this would still be so now and particularly as I said Russia has said no attack on Iranian bases to which Israel replied she would if she needed then everything stopped because of chemical weapons and US involvement.

    Anyway we will need to wait and see. I thought it was on Iranian bases when I woke up as that was what they have been talking about for days will we/won't we but it possibly is more that Israel is just testing the water and given that it appears that most of whatever she was using was shot down, possibly she does not have the freedom Russia was giving her before to attack some things.

    I have put up loads of links about this both before the US strike and after.
     
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  15. Gilos

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    Its possible Israel taunts Iran now before they grow strong in Syria, if it does it will make sense to me.
     
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    I would agree that Israel is concerned about Iran becoming strong in Syria particularly with her links to Hezbollah but I think it is/was a bit more than just taunting though as I said prior to the chemical attack business Russia had said no more bombing of Iranian bases. I had thought that that was what the chemical weapons attack was about. Now that it did not achieve what it apparently from the US side was intending - and those involved now with the recent changes by Trump are all strongly pro war with Iran, the question is I think 'what can Israel do?' and that possibly what she was trying to find out.

    Iranian Monitor has been saying something else which may have some significance. He has said that all the talk of Trump liking Russia and so on was an attempt to get Russia to allow Israel/the US to deal with Iran but this was not accepted by the Republicans. You may have heard a short time ago the US making an announcement that their primary enemy now was not terrorists but Russia. Iranian Monitor said that that has made Russia realise that Iran is probably the one it can trust resulting in a change in Russian policy. If you have the time and can be arsed there is an article by Alistaire Crooke here on the recent Israeli attacks on Syria and Russia's response. Basically what it appears to say back then Feb 21st was that Russia would not allow attacks on Iranians inside Syria as that affected her security but it would not interfere with an attack on Iran. That of course was then. This is now.
     
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    I don't think Israel can count on the US to fight Iran for its interests, Israel has and probably did make plans of its own and its clear to all sides that Syria will not be peaceful while it has Iranian bases and weapon factories of some sorts, Israel is not known for its lay back policy, I think something will be negotiated if normalization in Syria is the objective.
     
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    https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...missile-attack-on-air-base-thwarted-1.6009200
     
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    This reason, of course, being to bring Assad down and to let chaos take over another secular regime opposed to Israel's apartheid or Saudi wahabist growth.
     
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    In the meantime, Thomas Friedman ran an article the other day in which a senior Israeli military official admitted Israel was the one that had carried out the attack on the T-4 airbase last week. That attack causes 14 deaths, including 7 Iranian revolutionary guards personnel who were killed.

    https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...n-first-we-hit-live-iranian-targets-1.6007914
    Later on, however, the Israelis tried to disassociate themselves with an attack everyone knows was carried out by them.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israe...-from-claim-of-responsibility-for-syria-raid/
     
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    No, Israeli demands are regarding Iranian bases only, not Assad, thou I wouldn't grow too attached to him if I were you.
     
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    When did Hezbollah attack Israel? Israel just likes bombing and acting like the victim
     
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    So you'll limit your aggression to the Golan Heights, yes? And why should Syria, a sovereign nation, oblige to your demands? Iran is invited by the legitimate regime of Syria to help it defend against Islamists, that you support up to some point. Everybody can see it. You did the same thing with Hamas as well as with a couple of other such golems running around here and there. That's what Israel does, and always did.

    Israel will have to learn to live with the fact that many people think apartheid is disgusting.
     
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    The myth Zio Jews must promote in order to maintain their "Jewish State".
    First that the conflict is between Arabs and Jews. Then that the Jews are represented by Israel alone. Then that the violence is from the Arabs, when we can see that Israel illegally occupies others land, shoots protesters across boarders and is now attacking Syria, with no legal justification.
     
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    No.....their basses are all over Syria...
    Because we assume it wants to go back to normal living
    We dont give a flying **** on their invitation, in fact it can only justify the inconvenience to Assad
    You have the right to an opinon.
    Ohhh.......
     

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