Something Weird Is Going On in Nigeria

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  1. Merwen

    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    The recently elected President of Nigeria has been out of the countrynow for over a month for "medical tests" in England. His wife has already returned to Nigeria but has no news on his status. Meanwhile, the Nigerian public is becoming disturbed that no more information has been provided.

    Meanwhile, a story has come out that it might have been possible to rescue the kidnapped Chibok girls under the previous administration of Good Luck Jonathan, but that GLJ had refused the offered assistance of the British military, which had discovered where the girls were being held. One conjecture was that the actual money for the Nigerian military had been disbursed through graft and GLJ therefore did not wish British involvement due to the risk of discovery of this.

    I heard both of these stories on NPR (BBC program) tonight; can't help wondering if the two stories are connected. If anyone reading this hears more or has any idea what is going on, please speak up!

    [It seems to me I started hearing about Boco Haram in Nigeria on BBC at just about the same time I first heard of Good Luck Jonathan, as well....]
     
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    Mebbe he got the worms.
     
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    This is serious, Waltky. It also involves the fate of the Chibok girls that were kidnapped by the Boko Haram from their schoolhouse.
     
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    Nigeria: Talks with Boko Haram continue over Chibok girls...
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    Nigeria marks 3 years since schoolgirls' mass abduction
    Apr 14,`17 -- Nigerians on Friday marked three years since the mass abduction of nearly 300 schoolgirls by Boko Haram extremists amid anger that government efforts to negotiate their freedom appear to have stalled.
     
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    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    From Waltky's quote:.

    Boko Haram's seven-year Islamic uprising has killed more than 20,000 people and driven 2.6 million from their homes, with millions facing starvation because of the disruption in markets and agriculture.
     
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    Some of you that are so big to defend Muslims should follow Waltky's link and look at the faces of the few girls that have gotten away from Boka Haram.
     
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    Food aid for Africa being cut...
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    UN to cut food aid for Nigeria crisis over lack of funds
    Sunday 16th April, 2017 - Food aid will be cut for more than a million Nigerians affected by Boko Haram's insurgency if promised funding from the international community does not arrive, according to a United Nations official.
    See also:

    As famine looms overseas, US senators seek more efficient food aid; deliveries can take months
    Apr 15,`17 -- As President Donald Trump seeks to cut foreign aid under the slogan of "America First," two U.S. senators are proposing making American food assistance more efficient after meeting with victims of South Sudan's famine and civil war.
     
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    The most telling portion of Waltky's link above:

    "The Islamic insurgency in the vast north-east has disrupted both markets and farming, creating the hunger crisis."
     
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    Boko Haram has been active since 2002.
     
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    By now many have been sold as child brides and jihadi sex slaves...
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    Finding Chibok Girls May Take Years, General Warns
    April 17, 2017 - Nigeria's defense minister has warned it may take years to find all the Chibok girls kidnapped by the militant group Boko Haram.
     
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    I thought with modern heat sensing instrumentation and Google Earth it was impossible for anything to stay lost anymore.

    IMO something else is a factor here...either indulging Muslim terrorism or some sort of weird carryover from early tribal mating customs. Otherwise the continuation of this situation for over three years now is totally incomprehensible. By this point any hope those girls would have for a normal life is either over or fading fast.

    I noticed in photos of one girl who escaped with her baby the officials seemed more pleased with the baby than the girl--one more little Muslim for the country, and from a Christian captured by Muslims! Right in tune with Mohammed's loathsome teachings.
     
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    Nigeria is Africa, and Africa is Africa. It's a failed and dysfunctional Continent and always will be.
     
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    So you're defending the treatment of these kidnapped girls on the basis of what some Christians might have done during the Dark Ages?
     
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    It certainly is and always will be if things like this are allowed to go on indefinitely.
     
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    "Allowed"?
    I think that is the root of the problem. They need to sort themselves out, or it won't stick.
     
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    The British Empire contributed it's share to that dysfunction by creating artificial borders that forced warring tribes to fight over control of "nations" that previously never existed.
     
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    Yes, but the jungle and tribal mentality is still inherent in even modern-day Africans.
     
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    You mean the exact same "jungle and tribal mentality" that separates the English from the French and the Germans and caused them to vote for Brexit?
     
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    No. I don't see how the African jungle mentality can apply to northern Europeans. We're different 'animals' altogether. A bit like we're different to middle easterners and other regionals?
     
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    They are only different when it comes to culture but as far as tribalism goes the English are as tribal as they come. Just look at soccer hooliganism and explain how that differs from a "jungle mentality".
     
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    Unless Africans decide to stop killing Africans nothing will change but any responsibility is directly on the people who live there. Africa is very slow to move away from the tribal mentality that defines it, a bit like the Middle East without oil money.
     
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    No, they're different 'upstairs' too. But I take your point about the 'tribalism' aspect of soccer hooliganism except that I think that's more to do with raw nationalism than any jungle mentality.
     
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    Actually Nigeria is an oil producing nation. ;)

    When it comes to killing and tribal mentalities it is difficult to compare countries because statistics are not always reliable.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2009/oct/13/homicide-rates-country-murder-data

    Does anyone seriously believe that the murder rate in Zimbabwe is only a quarter of that of Jamaica?

    Instead I would find it more credible that Jamaica has a more sophisticated and accurate means of tracking and compiling these statistics whereas local murders in Zimbabwe are probably not even being reported, let alone investigated, because of a lack of proper government.
     
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    Given the behaviors involved there is no difference between "raw nationalism" and "tribalism" IMO.

    And yes, these behaviors are exhibited by the lowest common denominator of the societies involved.

    At that level it is hard to tell them apart.
     
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    Well ... you are telling such impudent words at least to people on a continent who live in borders which were not done by them out of own history and which are against any logic and puts people into 1 country together, which are more different as Americans and Brazilians in culture, aside any religious differences and so on.... And where the leading regimes and dictators which depress their people are all backed by our governments and corporations!
    So yes ... their own guilt that Nigeria is governed by Shell, BP and others at least who give a crap on any laws and have the real saying in this country due to their oil mining!
     

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