South Africa on brink of ‘ANARCHY’ as president demands white farmers’ land is SEIZED<<MOD WARNING>>

As always the progressive here and in south africa have great faith in their ability to keep all the pie plates in the air in the name of socisl justice which is anything but just

 

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And Theresa May seriously believes she'll be able to hold rational dialogue with these charlatans to the point that she's chucking Great British Pounds all over the continent of Africa like some demented Lady Bountiful when we need them so desperately here? 'Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make dumb!'

 

You are forgetting the Chinese. They have already deeply penetrated nearly everything of any consequence in Sub-Saharan Africa, and after the confiscations, expulsions, and blood-baths have taken place in South Africa, the Chinese will move in full-force... at first, with seduction, corruption, and money (as usual). Later, they'll bring their military presence, dominate everything, and take over. Blacks will wish they had the old 'Colonial Days' and Apartheid back -- because at least then they were able to live their own little Stone Age lives in relative peace and tranquility, much as they and their ancestors had for thousands of years.

The Chinese don't give a damn about "inclusiveness", "diversity", or any other politically-correct, 'Kumbaya'-esque horseshit. They never have.... The Chinese will move in and they RULE!

 

The Nazis stole from innocent people who had committed no crime.

The white population of SA collectively benefited from the racist and unjust system of Apartheid for almost 100 years. A legal system that they put into force through legislation.

collective punishment, in this case, is warranted.

 

And what, Ronnie, did White, Middle-Eastern, and Indian settlers deprive Black Africans of when they came into the wild expanses of South Africa hundreds of years ago? The ability to live at a Stone Age level of civilization, waging constant tribal warfare on each other, and practicing slavery on a scale that dwarfs anything ever imagined in the Deep South of the United States? And for that, you prescribe "collective punishment"? Oh, that's great, Ronnie.

Remember you said that when the Chinese take over all of Sub-Saharan Africa and begin to construct fictional lists of "crimes" that they decide they need to inflict on whoever is left there after the coming blood-baths... and all of it done with some manufactured mandate involving "justice"... right?

 

In your mind, the collective injustice was the Dutch settling there and developing the land which led to the prosperity S. Africa has today. Are the Blacks worse off than they were before the advent of the Dutch? I don't think so, therefore where is the injustice other than in their own minds?

The problem was the desire of the Dutch to retain their heritage and standards, which should be every man's right, but by doing so created animosity. What should have been done, is have each living in separate areas where they could maintain their own cultural beliefs and standards, and where each could accommodate the other in ways that would have benefited both, rather than having integration forced on them by outside forces for their own ideological and political reasons.

 

I remember there was a similar thread on this topic a while back and President Trumps concerns and or comments don't change my opinion on this. I like to think if nothing else I am consistent in my views and it never has anything to do with race. Simply the facts.

Just like my documented criticisms of Palestinians and their terrorist run government wanting special treatment and aid and land that they have lost, I have little patience for the white farmers in South Africa. Seem strange? It shouldn't. Both entities lost.

In South Africa's case Apartheid ended and now the black majority with all the keys to power who just happen to Fkn be the lands original owners have decided to take it back with zero compensation. Do I sympathize with the white farmers? Yeah they are South African. Born there for generations now. I sympathize with the Palestinians the same way. Doesn't change the fact that both lost. It's time to acquiesce, barter for the best deal they can get and or get out.

I think this will result in great harm for South Africa due to greed and pork barreling by their politicians. These white farmers understand their industry far far better than any new owners can hope. It's sink or swim for the new owners and people are going to go hungry. Oh well. It's their party they can cry if they want too.

Time to let the thunder roll.

 

So to top off the stupidity in S. Africa, one of the banks said that the loans must be paid off, even if someone's land is confiscated.

We are witnessing once more the destruction of a nation. Now that should make George Soros a very happy man. One more down, and how many more to go to reach the ideological imprisonment of his liberal new world order.

Hee, hee, hee!




LORD, WHAT FOOLS THESE MORTALS BE - William Shakespeare

 

I think what we are missing here, is that land ownership didn't exist, anymore than it did in much of Europe, before new tribes began moving in and taking over. Many were killed, others left and the rest were either enslaved or kept at a lower social status. Notice how all the nobility in Europe were Germans, and the rest were serfs.

 

I'm not missing it. I am embracing it in my opinion as fact. The fact is the ethnically original habitants or owners or however we want to look at it have reassumed power. Now the black majority is asserting that power.

I am not going to be a hypocrite and say that these white farmers deserve special treatment after losing all say in their government or over lands they claim then turn around and lambast the Palestinians for a very similar situation. Both unfortunate. But /shrug. Both lost.

 

don't presume to know what I think.

Apartheid was a MASSIVE injustice committed collectively by the white population of South Africa.

They benefited collectively from the system and therefore can be expected to pay a collective price to repair the damage they did.

 

So you're going to leave new york city then? Seeing as how the dutch tricked the poor natives out of it for some worthless glass beads and all.

You're going to let them forcibly evict you from your home and steal your **** right? For the collective guilt?

 

I never voted for any racist laws in NYC.

NYC ended any racist laws many decades before I was born.

Apartheid, however, ended only 24 years ago.

But yes, anyone younger than 44 bares no responsibility for Apartheid and shouldn't have to pay a price for it.

 

Hypocrisy!


Ah so even those who voted against must suffer for actions they not only didn't commit but fought against?

Plenty of folk alive during our own apartheid. We going to steal their **** too?

 

South Africa had a nation-wide MASSIVE system of racial Apartheid, limiting 90% of the population to 10% of the land.

Blacks could not vote. Blacks could not run for office.

the USA had nothing even close to such a situation.

especially in the North.

 

Jim Crow. Your argument is invalid. They were subjected to far more indignities than simply no franchise.
You realize the north had analogues for Jim Crow as well?
You realize the north owned slaves when the south didn't...? Yes?

Your lack of knowledge of history is unsurprising

 

I can imagine all kinds of different scenerios. Remember the goal is creating a more equitable land ownership distribution with minimum production impact.

AS the biggest economy on the planet, one would expect them to spend more. As to being a piggy bank, that is a stupid and ignorant remark that demonstrates the superficiality of trumpian economics.

yeah, I mean in all seriousness, why would anyone try to compare a president directly attacking the rule of law to a president trying to right historical wrongs by suggesting the possibility of land expropriation without compensation.

No, not a feeling. a determination based on your posting history and our limited interactions.

 

slavery ended in my state in 1827.

New York had no state-sanctioned racial segregation.

 

You said THE NORTH, not NEW YORK. NEW YORK is part of the NORTH which is part of the UNITED STATES. Any remedy for NATIONAL APARTHEID would come at the NATIONAL LEVEL.

Additionally: Here's some lovely prog media articles about why you're wrong.
https://www.salon.com/2014/12/14/th...m_and_segregation_above_the_mason_dixon_line/
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/chin-jou/the-jim-crow-north-new-york-civil-rights_b_5613150.html

Face it, your argument for the whites in SA applies to you and I and every other white person in the nation.
You're just a racist, as bad as brewskier in your own way.

 

there were no national laws mandating a racist and unjust system of Apartheid in the USA.

they were all passed and enforced at the State level.

which is why I fully supported Reconstruction after the Civil War, as it sought to right some of the wrongs committed by The South.

 

3/5ths compromise ringing a bell there McFly?


How do you think slave state v free state was ultimately decided back in the day anyway? You realize they were allotted right, then voted on?

 

So Israel is justified in taking back their country and punishing the Palestine people?

 

taking back their country?

who took it from them?

when was it taken from them?

 

gen·tri·fi·ca·tion
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noun

1. the process of renovating and improving a house or district so that it conforms to middle-class taste.
   "an area undergoing rapid gentrification"
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China and Iran blockaded the Strait of Hormuz today

 

History is there on the internet for those bright enough to Google it.