South Africa on brink of ‘ANARCHY’ as president demands white farmers’ land is SEIZED<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i want the white people of SA to compensate the black natives for almost a century of an unjust and racist Apartheid system.

    Just as my people were compensated for the Holocaust
     
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    Apartheid existed from 1948 until 1990. How is that a century?
    But it is obvious in your book two wrongs make a right.
     
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    Your people were compensated by the German Government not by a minority population. If the South African government has evidence that individuals were damaged due to policies of the South African government, the entire South African people should be responsible. That is common law and utilized by most civilized countries. White farmers committed no crime by farming. Blaming them is a false narrative. It would be like compensating the property of Jews in New York City because they got rich while others suffered in the city.
     
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    So you want white people that may or may not have benefited to compensate blacks that may or may not have been disenfranchised...
    How do you recommend that happen? Is killing them and then taking their land good enough?

    I know! They could put a “white tax” and an equal “black discount” on all goods services and property!
    Hey, what happens when all the white people leave and the black people starve to death?
     
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    the white population of SA collectively persecuted the black natives of SA.

    compensation is in order
     
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    It’s always the same question with these racial wealth transfer programs, how do you go about stealing reappropriating the wealth of the white farmers to the poor blacks?

    What should happen if they refuse to go along with your proposal?
     
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    So then you DON'T have a "determination" that I am a racist or white supremacist?
     
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    yes, why else would I apologize?
     
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    Is it normal for you to jump the gun like that and make the determination that someone is something as despicable as
    a white supremacist or a racist? I would certainly expect more from your 65 years of life my friend.
     
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    I'm sure you don't need me to post links to all the times Obama broke the law, abused his power, or created his own laws. Now, other than tweets, what actions has Trump taken to attack the rule of law?
     
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    this is about compensating a people for their suffering and persecution, at the hands of a racist small minority.

    do you oppose the compensation Jews received from Germany for the Holocaust?
     
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    What part of geriatric confusion did you fail to comprehend? I confused you with another poster. Rather simple and straightforward mistake on my part. When I make em, i own up to them.

    And I would expect somebody to graciously accept an apology for a case of mistaken identity, and leave it at that. Guess its failed expectations all around.
     
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    Yes you do need to post links to all of obama's crimes. "created his own laws"? are you aware of how laws are created in America?

    Other than the tweets? You mean other than official presidential statements, what has he said or done?
     
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    First of all, over half the Black people now in South Africa never lived under Apartheid. Why should they be compensated for something they never experienced?
    Second, SA can not grow or even maintain what they now have without foreign investment. Foreign investment will not exist in any country that does not protect property rights.
    Two other African Nations have compensated White owned farms. This has failed miserably in both these countries. The Black farmers are not productive and the people are starving and dying from disease and violence. One has to wonder why the Libs are so in favor of this? Are they striving to depopulate Black Africa?
    Now the real reason for the planned takeovers.
    SA's government is among the most corrupt in the world. Nearly all the Blacks who have succeeded since Apartheid are connected to the political ins. Black unemployment is over 50% for the rest. This group is growing increasingly restless.
    Mismanagement, corruption and stupid moves have caused the economy to shrink by over 25% in the last few years. Meaning a great deal less money to go around.
    AIDS is rampant in SA. In many areas, over 40% of the population is HIV positive. With over 300K new infection annually, it won't be long before there are a lot fewer people in South Africa.
    Like Hitler, Ramaphosa needs a scapegoat. What he is proposing will only worsen the plight of the people. However, the longer he can stay in power, the more he can skim. When it is all said and done SA will be in ruins and he will be a very wealthy man.
     
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    how is taking back land that was stolen wrong?
     
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    thats wishful thinking on your behalf considering africa has more natural resources than the whole of europe. most likely it will be the dutch settlers who will become Malnourished on the rubber dinghy across the atlantic.
     
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    Because they did not get to inherit what they should be entitled too.

    Lots of countries had no problem with white people thieving from black people in SA. It took decades from them to come up with the idea, that it's wrong and we should invest in that. Notable the US.... of all countries... labelled Nelson Mandela as a freaking terrorist as if was part of ISIS till 2008. Was on the terrorist watch list and everything.

    That those black people are not able to farm in those 2 countries, is not due to the color of their skin. It's due to that specifically... the white population denied them a proper education. Those people are to blame. That's how racism works. Do note, mankind has mastered the art of farming for 1000's of years, maybe even 10.000's of years.

    False
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    FALSE!!!!!

    65% of blacks in SA are between ages 15 to 64
     
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    When was it stolen?
     
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    Those under 25 never lived under Apartheid.
     
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    Source wikipedia
    "Since 1996, at the end of over twelve years of international sanctions, South Africa's Gross Domestic Productalmost tripled to peak at $400 billion in 2011, but has since declined to roughly $295 billion in both 2016 and 2017".
     
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    In the same period, foreign exchange reserves increased from $3 billion to nearly $50 billion creating a diversified economy with a growing and sizable middle class, within two decades of ending apartheid.[15][16]:chapter 1 In 2016 the top five challenges to doing business in the country were inefficient government bureaucracy, restrictive labour regulations, a shortage of skilled workers, political instability, and corruption, whilst the country's strong banking sector was rated as a strongly positive feature of the economy.[17][18] The nation is amongst the G-20, and is the only African member of the group.

    Sounds like they are doing fine.
     
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    Yeah right.

    A World Bank report revealed the results of a probe which states that from 1994 to 2015, a disproportionate number of South Africans — a staggering 75 percent — are still considerably poor. Only one in four, the report says, had the means to be deemed “middle class” or “upwards.”
     
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    http://documents.worldbank.org/cura...ment-of-Drivers-Constraints-and-Opportunities

    It says it used to be worse and adds:
    " Further, poverty has a strong spatial dimension in South Africa, a demonstration of the enduring legacy of apartheid"

    Time to seize the land of white farmers, pronto... spread the wealth etc.
     
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