South Africa - Why White People?

More moral than people glorifying slavery by claiming it was a good thing that happened to black people, as was stated in post 420.

 

That's not what was said. And nobody glorified slavery.
can't you even tell the truth once in a while

 

I even posted where to look, so go cry me a river buddy.

 

I'll even give you the questions again, then we can discuss the millions of blacks
that benefited from the slavery their ancestors had to go through.

I'll bet you refuse to answer it again.


I have 2 questions that I know you will not answer.

1. where would you be, right now, if it was not for slavery???
2. Where would you rather be.???

 

I replied to it so you can stop whining

 

LOLOL

You made an excuse not to answer it.
A feeble excuse that has nothing to do with anything.

Go ahead and answer it.

 

There is no reason to disclose my ethnic background and/or where about I live to anybody here, especially from somebody who denies the mass rape of slaves in the past and celebrates slavery as a happy thing.

 

Making up what I said again I see.
Can you say anything without lying.
Nobody cares about your ethnic background
We know you're black, and we know you're Muslim.

Just answer the questions.

Refusing to answer is admitting I am right.
And then making up what I supposedly said, proves it more.

 

You already made up your mind with bigotry, assuming I'm a black Muslim.
You can't prove that. And your mind if full with crazy crap, like your glorification of the mass rape era of slavery in the US.

 

yasureoktoo this part is not something you will be ok with reading, your comment is below.

Everyone be very nice to yasureoktoo.

Some pretty cruel stuff especially the Nazis with their medical experiments, not public baby bonfire cruel or public skinning. They would rape in the streets but not institutionally. They tattooed and skinned Jews although I never heard that they skinned them alive.

As far as I remember the Russians killed efficiently and or cost effectively i.e. lining people up head to head to save bullets and starving and working people to death in gulags.

For the Chinese public beheadings mostly, ancient Buddhists would repeatedly break the legs and arms of children, cut off fingers and put people in isolation chambers so they would be pushed to the point of "enlightenment". They would torture and murder rival sects. Later Taoists mixed in Buddhist ideas to form a branch called Alchemy with their own version of enlightenment and would burn people at the stake, drown them etc. Not all Buddhist and Taoists acted this way but enough did that it's worth mentioning.

Assyrians, Canaanites, Chaldean, Medes etc. topped the list but dark age Europeans especially Spain were a close second. In fact when Spain started the inquisition they had already been publicly torturing their own people for a couple thousand years before they ever even heard of Christianity. Public heroes consisted more of people who were tortured to death without screaming than great warriors.

On a side note people always talk about Hitler (not going to look up the numbers just going off memory) who killed 6 million Jews but Stalin killed 20 million and Mao killed 50 million and you almost never hear about it. It's strange to me to believe that it's a bigger deal to killed other people than it is to killed your own. I can see there are people in this forum who would be upset if a family member was killed by a white person but would be inconsolable and fall down overwhelmed with convulsive crying followed by murderous rage and screaming "WHY" at the sky if a black person killed a family member. This makes no sense to me.

History is filled with kind people.
Because throughout all of human history people were social and economic conservative there was plenty for everyone and everyone was healthy. Slaves had ice cream and pie Thursday and everyone was very very nice to each other.

This video will help you understand what it was like to be a slave back then. Get a 12 pack of sugar free energy drinks and watch the whole thing. Sugar free is disgusting but sugar causes you to crash.

 

This thread would be funny if it weren't so pathetic to that of white supremacist/racists/bigots and the lot who actually believe this myopic, half truth, willfully ignorant, in denial of reality screed. Oh well, they've got to blame someone for their lot in life. Carry on.

 

It's almost like an ignorant contest.

 

Shhhh, shhhh.
Its ok little one, just think about nice things and sweet people.
Want me put another video on?

 

Don't worry, your tied with notme
Hey, you can answer the question on 479 too.
Though I doubt you will.

 

Actually, no. That member is not making up anything about what you supposedly posted here. You posted a nefarious idea here, then tried to disguise your peculiar institution mindset which you displayed toward slavery.

Your words here do clearly impress that today's Blacks should be happy, about Slavery, as you allude to how you feel their lives would be worse off had their ancestors not been enslaved. What about those Whites, who fought against slavery? How are their descendents lives, better, within however their ancestors paid the consequences for helping Black slaves fight back?

 

There are no blacks in America who were slaves.
But slavery was a way in the door to America, and the ancestors of these blacks who suffered slavery,
are lucky they were born here.
Only 5% of the slaves taken out of Africa came here.
Even the blacks in Africa are trying to get here as we speak.

And how about the whites who fought and died fighting slavery.

Slavery is used as an excuse, mostly by lazy blacks who think the world owes them a living.
Every culture on earth, mine included, had slavery in their past,
However the only obvious people who benefited from it, is todays American blacks.

BTW, they still have slavery in Africa.

 

I don't see you answering the questions.

 

Your remarks here are not based in, logic, if you did intentionally exclude certain realities which are not accounted for in your analysis.

For example, you might not have fairly considered how

1) Most of those Blacks were abducted from their Homeland
2) The USA education sys does not make efforts to ensure USA Blacks experience their African history/their African origin celebrated by the USA ---which claims to be proud of its Black citizens.
3) It's not possible to have morale nor to, be proud of what you are, if your Racial history is not celebrated by the country that you live in/pay taxes to sustain.
4) Emancipation Proclamation had to force a nation, to free Black Slaves, where their freedom was then not recognized by racist Americans.
5) 13th Amendment then helped compel a nation, to honor Blacks freedom, because their freedom's equality was not recognized by racist Americans.
6) JFK's proverbial CRA'64 legislation was also needed. By the 1960's we still needed to compel a nation, to honor Blacks' Liberty, because their freedom's equality is still not recognized by racist Americans.
7) Congress VRA'65 legislation was needed to force racist Americans to let Blacks help elect public officials.
8. Over the past several decades including 2019, our nation's EEOC offices and courtrooms have experienced tens of thousands of valid cases feat. Blacks having absorbed illegal racial-discrimination.
9) In 1787 the U.S. Constitution deemed that a Black slave = 3/5ths of a White man. 3/5ths = 60%.
10) According to the U.S. 2010 Census the avg. Black American's income = 60% of the avg. White Americans' income. 3/5ths still = 60%.

 

You re in a fantasy world,
I'm not going to waste my time with that crap.
all have motives you didn't mention.
And no, none of the blacks taken out of the jungles were educated.
You can invent all the scenarios you like, but every black born today has opportunities they do not have in their home countries.
They have the opportunity for an education, but many can't even speak English.

Why do you think they are trying to get here.
If it was so good in Africa, the blacks here would be trying to get there.
You're free to travel, if life is so good in Africa, why aren't you going there.

It may have taken a few generations, but you can even be president.


You are basically proving what I said.
I emphasized "Blacks of today".
Your argument is from the past.

 

A lot of times I skip the dumb comments and go after ignorant ones.
You can tell at first glance by the format before even reading them so I skipped this one.

1. All the cities and town in the developed world look pretty much the same with the exception of aesthetics and most of their economies didn't require being opposed to freedom so that land owners could go from rich to rich so that's where we would be, in cities and towns.
2. Got sick of city life and traffic so I move to just outside Joshua Tree National Park. Walmart is 30 minutes away and Target is an hour so I would probably rather be back in Riverside Ca.

Here are some places where Africans might be if there was no slavery.

Lagos, Nigeria



Luanda, Angola



Nairobi, Kenya



Abidjan, Ivory Coast




Addis Ababa, Ethiopia




Johannesburg, South Africa

 

Dude, all that stuff is new, 20 years ago it was desert and jungle.
Built by European companies.
Johannesburg was built by the whites, and now it is receding back into a 3rd world country.

 

A lot of it was built by foreigners.

In the recent case of Chinese building things, the Chinese often don't trust African laborers and prefer to bring in their own people, even though local Africans are cheaper.
A few of the local governments have had to force to force Chinese developers to hire a percentage of Africans, to help create jobs in their area.

Johannesburg was built by Whites, in many cases with lower skilled African laborers under the direction of Whites, or by the Coloureds, a mixed group that were part White and part African, who often served as the construction foremen.

Probably of the African capitals, Addis Abbaba is the one that was most built and designed by Africans, but then Ethiopia had always been one of the more cultured parts of Africa. (Addis Abbaba isn't really that modern though, the buildings look more like something from the 1970s)

Most of the big cities in Africa are surrounded by slums on the outskirts.

If you look at some of the tallest buildings in sub-Saharan Africa (with the exception of South Africa) the majority of them were commissioned by governments because they wanted to have a modern-looking city with skyscrapers, with European companies providing the construction expertise, and often lots of European consultants overseeing the job.

 

So they wouldn't be living there if slavery didn't happen?
Because that's one of the big arguments if not for slavery they would still all be living in grass huts.

Apparently it wasn't necessary for slavery to occur.

And wheres that big gotcha from my answers, you've been waiting for someone to answer those questions.

 

You've got to be kidding.
They were living in grass huts. In the stone age.
And they would still be, if western civilization didn't interfere.
And why would you even post a city like Johannesburg.