Special counsel indicts 13 Russian nationals in Russia investigation

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    The Justice Department on Friday indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian groups of violating criminal laws with the intent to interfere "with U.S. elections and political processes", according to the agency.

    According to the agency, "the indictment charges all of the defendants with conspiracy to defraud the United States, three defendants with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud, and five defendants with aggravated identity theft."

    The indictment says that some defendants "communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump campaign" without revealing their association with Russia. The indictment also says the defendants posted negative information about a number of candidates during the last general election.

    "Defendants operations included supporting the presidential campaign on then-candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaging Hillary Clinton" his Democratic rival, according to the indictment.

    https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews....ionals-russia-investigation/story?id=53147082

    Very interesting. Is the investigation hearing up? Wrapping up?
    Were trump officials duped? Willing patsies?

     
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    Oh... this is going to be good.

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    Looks like this is coming out of Mueller's Office:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/russians-indicted-in-special-counsel-robert-muellers-probe.html
     
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    It would be really nice if we were told how they tried to dupe trump's campaign and insert themselves into our election. One or more of these russians making political comments is hardly interference IMO. They would have to do more than that. The vague general charge of trying to defraud the US, unless this is in reference to their other crimes leaves much to be desired.

    Might be wrapping up given they must not have discovered any illegality involving the trump campaign and the election. But they did nab em some russians breaking other laws. And manafort for non related crimes and of course flynn for lying to federal agents. We should be told what the lie flynn told was in reference to. So we can see why he was charged.
     
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    37-page indictment

    Stunning the amount of help that the Trumplov Campaign got from Russia ... and he still barely won the election...
     
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    Everything you're asking is publicly available. Read the Flynn indictment and the Russians indictment.
     
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    I have never actually expected to find Mueller charging Trump. If he charges the Russians, great. That I expected. Now, the next thing is to convict them. That is a different egg to fry.
     
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    Um. That's been public knowledge for some time.

    http://www.newsweek.com/michael-flynn-charged-special-counsel-russia-investigation-728304

    According to the charge announced Friday and a court filing dated November 30, Flynn made false statements to FBI agents on January 24. During that meeting, he lied about a conversation he had with the Russian ambassador on December 22, 2016. He told the agents that he “did not ask the Russian Ambassador to delay the vote on or defeat a pending United Nations Security Council resolution,” and that the ambassador didn’t tell Flynn about Russia’s response to the request. The Washington Post reported in February that Flynn denied discussing sanctions against Russia with the ambassador.

    The federal prosecutors also said that Flynn lied about a second conversation with the ambassador, which took place on December 29, 2016. He told the agents that he did not ask the ambassador “to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day.” He also told them he did not recall the ambassador’s then agreeing “to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of his request.”
     
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    As Democrats well know, getting them to change their votes from A to B is as difficult as getting them to support our freedoms.

    Democrats ideology is based on false premises. And once they lock in on false premises, no matter what the Russians could do, nor what Russians say, the Democrat bound to vote for Hillary Clinton will never recant and change their votes.

    We republicans are based on a firm foundation so even with human being candidates, yes those who have human flaws, may get our vote if we believe they will run the nation in a fashion to afford us maximum freedom. At the core of all republicans is the desire to preserve the freedoms this nation was founded with. Ask any republican and they will tell you we live to preserve and enhance human freedom.
     
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    That should be an indication that it has nothing to do with Trump colluding with Putin.
     
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    They're not charging Trump i this particular instance. Just a large group of Russians posing as Americans engaging in informational warfare to turn the election to Trump's favor.

    Now the question is how closely, if at all, these Russian invaders worked with member of the Trump Admin and/or the RNC.
     
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    It is. I'm at a loss to determine how posting "negative information about a number of candidates during the last general election" qualifies as a crime in this country. If it was illegal most of the people in this forum would be in jail by now. :lol:
     
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    Cool.

    NOW, Mueller can really start focusing on Trump's Money Laundering and Obstruction of Justice.
     
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    And defendants held pro and ANTI Trump rallies, once on the same day in New York.
     
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    Are you kidding me? 13? Russian? Nationals? That’s it?

    A disaster for Liberals, if you ask me.
     
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    Ah... a new talkI got points were the sued, I see. Cool :applause:
     
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    The engaged in pro AND anti Trump activities and the same with other candidates.

    Did you guys not listen to Rosenstein?
     
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    Interesting opinion, but the Republican Mueller has objectively shown results in this investigation through these 13 nationals, 4 charged, and 2 guilty pleas.

    Your opinion on these real results are not my concern.
     
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    An inconvenient point, and never mind the Russkies have been meddling in our elections, and vice versa, for longer than that.

    :bored:
     
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    No Trump collusion, no Americans involved, no Americans even knew these guys were Russian.

    Oh my what will the left have to hang onto now?
     
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    Setting up the organizations they did apparently violates US election law.
     
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    It is not, or the dossier were never to see a light of day.
     
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    A HOPE?
     
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    Wait, what happened to the collusion?

    :roflol:
     

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