Spiritualism, Mental Disorders, Religion and Psychology

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Kari Sims, Mar 28, 2019.

  1. ibshambat

    ibshambat Banned

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    Once again, it is insanity if it only takes place in your mind. It is not insanity if it corresponds with events that exist outside of your mind.
     
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    I have had similar experiences, check https://sites.google.com/site/ilyashambatthought/logic-religion-and-spiritual-experience . It does not have to be delusionary. Sometimes we are dealing with very real forces. It is delusionary if it only exists inside of your head. It is not delusionary if it corresponds with events that take place outside of your head.
     
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    Well, you could say that in regards to the placebo effect, which is a very real thing. Even scientists recognize it. You knee jerked far too quickly when a bit of serious thought before the response may have made you look less like a thoughtless, arrogant, jerk. ha ha ha

    The mind/body connection, is still not fully understood by science. What occurs when the placebo effect works, and how it works, the mechanics of it are still not understood. But after all of these years, we indeed know that it is a real thing, and that the human mind, if it believes something will work, can work and create physical changes. At least in some people. There are mountains of evidence to back this up.

    So if some people believe that some god will change something, this too may be in the realm of the placebo effect, and will work in a particular cases. Perhaps even smearing fecal matter on the door frame and consecrating oil might work with some people.

    There have been documented cases where a woman or man has done the impossible and lifted a car off of their child, to save their lives. How is that possible, given the mechanics involved and testable muscle and bone strength says it is impossible?
     
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    An arrogant jerk is someone who tells a sick person via the Internet to use religious mumbo jumbo and consecrated oil to solve an obvious serious mental health health problem rather than going to a doctor.
     
  5. Kari Sims

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    I'm probably just like Rainman. That movie actually just came up in my day prior to this posting :D.
     
  6. Kari Sims

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    I'll have to check out that website. I like the delusionary if it only exists inside your head versus not delusionary if it corresponds with events that take place outside your head part. That makes partial sense. Sometimes I have too many thoughts to try to distinguish the difference though.
     
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    Hang in there. Test the thoughts by seeing if they correspond with things that are outside of yourself.
     
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    Perhaps the difference is less important than the fact that either commands your attention.
     
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    Over here in this other forum I go into the option of baptism by immersion as a way to flush unwanted spiritual interference out of our minds and hearts.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...analysis-so-far.536387/page-2#post-1070459587
     
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    In this society, it's really prerogative of a person to be a believer Vs. a diagnosed mental illness.
    What is faith?
    What is psychosis?
     
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    Do Christian and western world religious people have spirits within them and adhere to the thoughts of the spirits within them; and then Buddhists and eastern world religious people have transcended the thoughts of the spirits that are within them, think for themselves, and continue with their human relationships?
     
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    "Spirits" seems an improper term for what motivates the religious unless you mean "God". If so then the answer would be that it does seem they believe so. Buddhist philosophy does seem to transcend this need and allow for expansion of ideas without Dogmatic hinderance which inherently leads to more encompassing relationships.
     
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    Your explanation of your problem seems a bit vague. It's not entirely clear what you mean by "provoked thoughts." Does this mean that you are too frequently badgered by destructive impulses that warrant extra effort to rein in? If the origin is actual invasive spirits, then maybe exorcism is a possible solution.

    Another odd resource is Scientology/Dianetics. The late founder, L. Ron Hubbard claimed to have discovered the troublesome formation of mental "Ingrams" wherein the subconscious mind (the reactive mind) misinterprets perceptions and then formulates faulty conditioned responses or perverted logic. However, Scientology can be like a bottomless financial pit if you're not rich like John Trivolta, although it can be researched without getting directly involved.
     
  14. it's just me

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    Get a priest to give you an exorcism.
     

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