Someone argued this point with me. That though it is proven we have the worldy means to END world hunger and stop allowing people to die DAILY (and projected to continue year after year), it is not everyone's problem to deal with. It's "bigger" than an idealist viewpoint that we should end hunger if we can, and that nature starves off populations as a means of population control. (Those people would end up fighting and killing each other for land anyway.) These are the arguments told to me on the side of leaving famine up to mother nature. Please. Share your thoughts. Thanks.
There is a pool of thought that adheres to the idea that no matter what we try to do to remove world hunger nature will always come up with something else to ensure our population levels never reach the point of over powering the planet .. this is not to say that nature is a thinking entity, nature reacts to the necessity of maintaining balance .. I remember an experiment we did at school where we were all assigned two areas of grass of 1 foot square, one we had to leave to it's own devices, the other we could intervene in order to maintain the survival of the grass and the creatures that lived there, we maintained this experiment over a four year period, it was interesting to note that the area left alone actually found and maintained a balance that best suited the natural resources - that included periods where it seemed the creatures had died out - while the area we could influence thrived for a while but then became over populated and eventually required more and more intervention in order to maintain the level it had achieved. Our home, Earth, has only resources enough to supply a finite number of creatures, the more we try to tamper with that balance the more problems we store for future generations and I sometimes wonder that just because we can do these things should we. Nature will use times of less resources to "thin" out the indigenous population through disease and starvation, this adheres to the survival of the fittest ideology - and by fittest I don't necessarily mean the strongest - we as humans try to counter effect the processes of nature and to what purpose, one only has to look at the introduction of penicillin to see the effects our intervention causes, penicillin when first introduced was the wonder drug that pretty much fought against most illnesses, now it has little to no effect on the majority and I believe led to the mutation of some illnesses to the extent that we can now longer combat them at all.
Granny says dey oughta get a lotta 'fertilizer' from lil' fatboy Kim `cause he's fulla it... North Korea stockpiles human POO to use as fertiliser after chemicals embargo leaves Kim Jong-Il warning of famine 13 Aug 2016 - Survivors of the dictatorship's brutal regime say the country's leaders are demanding human feces to help farms in the country to continue delivering crops
Improved technology is just putting off the inevitable. World population cannot continue to double every 50 - 100 years.
Malnourishment rife in Nigeria... Nigeria facing a famine unlike any we have seen Sat, Sep 10, 2016 - CRISIS: Nearly a quarter of a million children are severely malnourished because trade and farming have been disrupted, UN Assistant Secretary-General Toby Lanzer said
We can't keep up with the 3rd world's ability to breed. At some point we will have a die off. Our good intentions are just making it worse. To exasaserbate the problem, we have improved health care so that at one point the 3rd world would have a dozen kids and three would survive. Now they have 12 kids and 9 survive. Don't mess with mother nature!
I have bags of fertilizer made from human poo....well technically processed sewage. It is pricey though and has a lovely smell.
Starvation and famine cause largest humanitarian crisis since 1945... UN says world faces largest humanitarian crisis since 1945 Mar 10,`17: The world faces the largest humanitarian crisis since the United Nations was founded in 1945 with more than 20 million people in four countries facing starvation and famine, the U.N. humanitarian chief said Friday.
Who is the "someone" who "argued this point?" It is not clear what your view on the matter is, nor is it clear who this "someone" is. But the idea that masses of humanity are expendable is close to hate speech. There is so much wealth in the world being wasted by greedy rich people accumulating property they neither need nor deserve, while refugee populations and those of third-world countries where drought and famine run rampant haven't enough for simple subsistence, that the Darwinian Survival-of-the-Fittest/one-upmanship view of human nature seems to be irrefutable. But common decency, empathy, compassion - as well as the golden rule, a notion shared by most of the religions of the world - are ideas that dwell in the hearts of the vast majority of people. I would tend to back this latter view.
The right to food is a human right... Famine can be a war crime and should be prosecuted, says independent UN rights expert Tuesday 24th October, 2017 -- Famine can constitute a war crime or crime against humanity, an independent United Nations human rights expert today said, noting that more civilians die from hunger and disease related to conflicts than in direct combat.
My question is, why have those in the West been so successful at getting their women to stop breeding beyond capacity, but haven't seemed to be able to get women in other Third World countries to stop overbreeding? What is it, for example, that makes the average American white woman have 1.6 children (below replacement rate) but an average woman in somewhere like Pakistan has 4.6 children? Is the solution to give the woman a job, and then make her so busy paying for expensive housing she won't have time to have children?
That seems to be an argument against caring about the state of the economy and its well-being which is absolutely harmful to society. Starvation is the result of bad cultures and overpopulation and fixing these two things will cure starvation. Anything else is basically meaningless.
Its simple in poor countries son are expected to care for the parents in old age and girls are able to work and are becoming more economically valued so larger families is their retirement safety net they depend on if then say one in three children die they need to reproduce enough to hedge their bets so if they have say six children and more are sons and one or two die there is a better chance of security. In the West we have retirement plans, systems of pensions and national security for the elderly taking the need for large families away and due to advanced medical care and ample access to very basic care all children have a very good chance to become adults. So if you have one child its likely to become an adult so why do we need higher reproduction if not vital to the individual need.
Are you saying it would be cheaper in the long run to provide retirement plans to women in other countries where most of the world's immigration is coming from?
As long as it is Muslims or atheists doing the starving then I don't care. I feel sorry for their little kids though. But these would probably grow up to be terrorists anyway.
"... girls are able to work ..." work -- here having the meaning of fokk for a living. Again, in the case of Muslims or atheists I don't really care.
Is that what Jesus teaches ? No. Back to Sunday School. ************************* Mathew 5: 43 - 48 43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. King James Version (KJV)
