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States seceding from the USA

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by stevenswld, Nov 12, 2012.

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  1. stevenswld

    stevenswld Banned

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    Since Obama's re-election, states where residents have filed secession petitions include: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas.
     
    stevenswld, Nov 12, 2012
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  2. Bluespade

    Bluespade Banned

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    And, it won't happen.
     
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  3. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They can file all the petitions that they want but the federal government has decreed that self-determination is a capital offense.
     
    tomfoo13ry, Nov 12, 2012
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  4. Bluespade

    Bluespade Banned

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    Ya, the feds aren't to fond of that.
     
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  5. yguy

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    Is that supposed to impress anybody?
     
    yguy, Nov 12, 2012
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    Paris Well-Known Member

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    Seceding is gay.
     
    Paris, Nov 12, 2012
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    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    If you secede then you better plan on giving back all of our military equipment. Or there will be hell to pay.
     
    TheTaoOfBill, Nov 13, 2012
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    Why have so few (if any) right wingers congratulated President Obama and the Democrats on their patriotic victory?
     
    Mr_Truth, Nov 13, 2012
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  9. General Fear

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    Puerto Rico is going to become the 51st state. So apparently America is a roach motel. You can come in but you can't get out.


    The left has shown interest in getting rid of the red states. Maybe Obama will go along. One good thing is that secession will be solved real quick. They will tell China the US is gone so we don't owe you any money.


    http://www.amazon.com/Better-Off-Wi...m+a+northern+manifesto+for+southern+secession

    I hope it does happen. We will be better off with a blue nation and a red nation.
     
    General Fear, Nov 13, 2012
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  10. Montoya

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    lol No one is seceeding. Its not happening. Who cares what a few kooks petition for.
     
    Montoya, Nov 13, 2012
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  11. Bain

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    Liberals in 2004:

    And the tug of war continues....
     
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    Probably not, actually. The media has essentially overblown the support for statehood there. The referendum created the illusion of high support for statehood by offering multiple choices that were against statehood, and a political movement for independence encouraged hundreds of thousands of voters to leave the referendum blank (over 400,000 voters).

    It's far more likely that the territory will drift towards autonomous rule if it changes at all from the status quo.
     
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    Was talking to a Puetro Rican visiting for thanksgiving. She thinks it is going to happen, and said a lot of people there support it.
     
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    Welcome to the Hotel California.
     
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    #1: national guard equipment actually is, legally, state equipment (not federal)
    #2: I'm totally fine with that. You guys keep the extravagant military, and you can keep the mountain of debt, too. "Old" United States' debt as % of GDP would skyrocket. I'd love to hear a debt ceiling talk then.
     
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    Independence was an option. Statehood got 800,000 votes, "sovereign free association" got 437,000 votes, independence got 72,560 votes. Over 400,000 left it blank - since 1.3million voted, and only 900,000 voted to change PR's status, it's obvious that most of the blanks were people who didn't vote for a change, though it appears that a good number who voted against the change still had their say in what the change should be. Makes sense. I wouldn't think of stripping someone's say in the future of the island because they voted against changing it.
     
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    Puerto Ricans don't want statehood. Rather, they want free stuff. They just think statehood is a way to get free stuff paid for by someone else.
     
    Albert Di Salvo, Nov 13, 2012
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    Complete BS...
     
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  20. Johnny-C

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    It has a sexual-orientation?
     
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  21. GrayMan

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    Why have no democrats consoled the republicans for their loss in their ideal america?
     
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    Just having fun::::

    If California manages to succeed I think the debt crisis will be over for the federal government as they will not have to fork out the earmarks and will not have to pay the residents social security and medicare.
     
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    Awsome but not going to happen. Their are states that are fighting for their rights in other ways.

    Example: Washington has made marijuana fully legal, regardless of federal laws.
     
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    Dont be silly. It means its a happy occassion.
     
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  25. GrayMan

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    Succeeding at something is ususally a happy occasion. Why go through so much effort to state the obvious?
     
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