Steve Jobs stepping down as Apple CEO

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    Jobs Stepping Down as Chief Executive of Apple
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    Jobs Steps Down at Apple, Saying He Can’t Meet Duties
    August 24, 2011 — Steven P. Jobs, whose insistent vision that he knew what consumers wanted made Apple one of the world’s most valuable and influential companies, is stepping down as chief executive, the company announced late Wednesday.
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    With Jobs out as CEO, Apple looks to the future
    25 Aug.`11 – Since Steve Jobs' return to Apple Inc. in 1997 as CEO, the company has been on an unparalleled upswing, highlighted by the immense popularity of the iPad and iPhone.
     
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    LOL!

    The "Supernanny Steve Jobs" show has been cancelled.

    This might actually be bad news for Android...Apple might start making common sense decisions like adding Flash and Widgets now that they are no longer obligated to follow the Supernanny Steve Jobs Jihad™.
     
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    Bad news for Apple.
     
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    does that mean there is an open JOB at apple?
     
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    No, the JOB has been filled by a COOK.
     
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    Apple is just not apple without Jobs. Hate to say it, but that man was what made Apple good and bright in the future development of our electronic goodies. Now I'm not so optimistic about the company....
     
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    Well, to be fair, this has little impact on their actual management structure; Tim Cook has been running it since January anyway.
     
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    Cook was also hand chosen by Jobs... who held a cult leader like influence in the company... Jobs also will be involved heavily in product development until he is drooling in a cup.

    Apple has many more ignorant decisions ahead of them... don't you worry.

    Now, beyond the vice grip on your digital dick, and **** fights with Adobe... I am grateful that the elegance of i devices design has changed the market in the way it has. Your droid would not exist without the iPhone. Tablets were considered a losing proposition due to limited releases and market results in the early 2ks... you wouldn't have all of these rather clunky devices you love without the innovation, and sheer brilliance of architecture of the i line of products. They suck, but they got style.

    You should watch the extrusion process to create an airbooks frame. It is just elegant. I am an android fanboi... I develop on android, you will pry my G1 Droid from my cold dead hands... I do not own any apple thingies... but I do repair them... and they are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing magic.
     
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    Flash is going the way of the dodo with HTML5 on the horizon and Widget are just that widget...
     
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    HTML5 is still under development, and billions of dollars of internet commerce are already built on flash. To presume that once the language which does not exist is released the world will immediately jump to spend billions of dollars in this economy to reinvent their wheels so that iphones can open them is a bit naive in my esteem.

    Flash is a remarkably diverse programming environment, and is remarkably efficient for being so dynamic... with established database, vector visual, interactive and dynamic interconnectivity. It will not become obsolete. There will be a great shift to HTML5. But we nerds need to learn it first. You can't throw a rock in a large city and not hit a FLASH programmer. Decades of experience on an industry standard will not disappear tomorrow. AS3 is a language in its own right... very different than AS2. Eventually HTML5 COULD replace Flash... but it will be 8 years down the pike at the least.
     
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    Html5 is under development, but you can use it right now. It's not really vaporware, or unusable. There's plenty of html5 application frameworks out right now, usable for most of the same things Flash is.

    Flash is going to be out on its ass within 5 years, especially if Apple stays the course.

    Go ahead and get started. The draft specification is already out, and folks already have web application frameworks adapted for it. HTML5 is not going to substantially change between the draft specification and the final specification. It's just working through the review process right now, and any changes that are put in place will not be substantial ones at this point.

    No, but if the iPad won't run it, there's a huge kick in the pants for folks to start using html5. It's not hard to learn.

    At the rate the transition is occurring? Five years, tops. Flash will be very retro in three years. The overhead is too high, and no one likes plugin architectures. This all is going to get driven down the pipe much faster by web application development for tablets.
     
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    I will now ask your background. I question your understanding of the intricacies of the flash environment.

    It is clear you believe this.

    That is condescending. I know more programming languages than I can remember. I actually have to google languages of specific divinations when revising my resume for specific purposes. I can typically pick up a new language with an intermediate understanding within 2 weeks... I need references of course... but still... you are kind of in my comfort zone here.

    Lol. That is not exactly true... I mean they are all easy for me, because I know so many... but it's ease of adoption is evidence of it's limitations.

    Rate of transition?

    Give me a single high traffic example which has transitioned. There are a whole lot of url's out there... surely ONE won't be difficult.
     
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    My understanding is that even when it matures HTML5 will still not do everything Flash does. So Flash is probably never going to really fade away. It will just work in tandem with HTML5 like it does with HTML4 now.

    There is more to flash than streaming video.
     
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    Nice article that explain the difference between Flash and HTML5 and why the later will eventually replace Flash in most case:

    http://www.site-reference.com/articles/html5-replace-flash

    Security and the adoption of open source model as opposed to closed source (Flash) being the main reason. The fact that Flash is processing heavy is also something to consider when you are dealing with devices that run on battery.

    HTML5 will be used on Windows 8 as a development plateform for desktop apps and so it is for Apple. HTML5 will also be a good solution for Linux which always had problem with Flash.
     
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    I like android's solution; support both. When Flash stops being used, drop support for it. Everyone wins.
     
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    That's your right and privilege.

    Personnaly, I can do without Flash. None of the site I consult use it anyway.
     
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    Why limit yourself? I'd rather decide what I like on my own rather than having the platform decide for me.
     
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    And that is ok if that is what you want... Me I have no use for it...
    See this is what makes our countries great... We can chose to buy and use what we want without suffering from buyer remorse... I sure don't...

    You know what?

    I miss the good old days of different and totally incompatible hardware & software plateform... The good old days of 8 and 16 bit computers... When people really spent time cleaning and optimizing their codes for their choosen plateform. No inconsistent performances because one PC use an NVidia graphic cards and another uses an ATI, or a certain chipset vs another or worst just a hardware revision of the same motherboard...

    Funny enough, the only company these days that spend the time optimizing anything is the one you hate the most SS... I won't name it since it tends to throw you into a fit of rage for some reason.

    BTW, did you know that HP announced last week that they were getting out of the personnal computer business? Just like IBM did a few year back... This mean, once they do it, that Dell will be the biggest personnal computer maker in the world... Guess who comes at the second place...
     
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    Thats the beauty of having a choice...you get what you want.
     
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    Surely you're mistaken. Why would anyone buy a Dell when they could buy from the company that is in second place? The one that is in second place is better, right?
     
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    Only when we compare size, they are second place.

    Guess what... Ferrari is behind Ford also, but I bet you would love driving a Ferrari instead of a Ford Taurus...
     
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    Um...size as in sales numbers? Why is the better computer not selling more?


    So why doesnt everyone own a Ferrari if the Ferrari is better? What is Ford offering that Ferrari is not?


    What would be the insurance on it? What is the gas millage on it? what does it cost to repair it?

    Is it possible there are more variables than you have considered?
     
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    Is it possible that you are so full of an irrational hate for a brand that you can't seem to be able to distance yourself and see that they have been one of the greatest innovator (if not the biggest) in the last 15 years or so?

    You seem so eager to disparage all things apple, just like some do with Sony, that you can't see the good that they did for the tech world?

    People (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about M$, Apple or Sony, but without them your plateform of choice wouldn't even be here today.
     
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    Aw gee, you dont say. So I guess the quality is not good enough to justify the price for most people eh?


    Apparently the quality is not worth the price. Otherwise people would be buying the #2 computer instead of the #1. Right?


    I have been using a Dell at work now for four years without problems. It has actually been running quite good.

    LOL You mad bro?
     
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