Still No Proof Russia Interfered in 2016 US Election

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  1. Horhey

    Horhey Well-Known Member

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    We are told that Russia hacked the DNC servers to get dirt on Hillary Clinton and then gave to Wikileaks in order to help Donald Trump win the Presidency? It is reported by the corporate media as fact. It is based on a report released by "hand picked" members of 3 US intelligence agencies assessing the issue. In this report, however, these same officials made this crucial admission:
    The day the report was released, The New York Times’s Scott Shane noted that:
    Russiagate then is a conspiracy theory and it's still the dominant narrative in the mainstream.







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    More likely to be Ukrainians:
    Up is down. Left is right.
     
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    OP

    Well if there's no proof after over 2 years of searching for it, that can mean only one thing . . . there isn't any? And that in turns means it didn't happen.
     
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    What does this have to do with the military?
     
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    "Still No Proof Russia Interfered in 2016 US Election"

    lot of proof Russia interfered in the 2016 election, the Trump tower meeting for one

    why did Trump lie about that meeting?

    but let's wait for the investigation to complete, cause unlike with republicans in the Hillary investigation, Mueller is not leaking, so we just have to wait
     
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    What proof is there that "Trump lied"? That's a statement opinion, not of fact.

    Russia also staged anti-Trump demonstrations in the US which morons like Michael Moore attended, yet we're supposed to believe in "Trump/Russia collusion" because of a viral prog media meme.

    Russia has clearly been attacking both sides, and playing both sides against each other.
     
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    Which is their entire goal. I am sure many members of their Intelligence apparatus are laughing as we attack ourselves.

    Their goal from all that I have seen has never been to "appoint a President", but to make us start to doubt our own election system. This has simply caught hold much more strongly with the Democrats because they tend to have a much more antagonistic attitude with others that do not agree with them.
     
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    Guess what? It ain't going to change. Unless there are severe military strikes on Russia inflicting severe pain.

    So all it amounts to is seventeen intelligence agencies pissing, moaning, groaning, and weeping.
     
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    Yes, the OP is false, and, yes, Russia hacked the computers.

    Anyone who doubts it is connected to Russia in one way or another.
     
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    where you been, the meeting happened, it was not about Adoption, remember the emails Trump jr got and his reply.... we know for a fact that happened
     
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    Yeah so you haven't provided proof of "lie," which means intent to deceive.
     
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    Wait, you are willing to conduct a military strike, because the Russians hacked the computers of the Democratic Party?

    Sorry, but I see that as completely insane.
     
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    All they hacked is the computers of the Democratic Party, none that actually had anything to do with the election.

    And all they revealed is things the Democrats did, that they did not want anybody to know about. No information was faked, they only made public what they had done prior to the election.

    Myself, I loved seeing the same people who were praising groups like WIkiLeaks then screaming because they were doing it against them.
     
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    I guess you missed it.

     
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    You love seeing the Russians, your allies, disrupting American elections.
     
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    The user you are responding to is not Obama- the man who let Russia hack the United States, and the man who was President when they did so.

     
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    Wow, really? That is your response?

    Go away troll. If all you can do is make remarks like that, you are not even worth the bother to respond to.
     
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    Or the man who largely sat back and let Russia hack off a big chunk off of the Ukraine.

    I am sure you remember how livid I was when that happened, and that I believed that our last President should have drawn a "line in the sand" back then, and sent as much support to the Ukraine as he could. Not simply shrug and do nothing.

    Yet somehow, I seem to be a "Russia lover" in his eyes. I honestly believe that a great many of the Democratic Party really have gone insane.
     
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    McCarthyism is a right wing tendency. You and your ilk have been attacking Trump from the Right. Enough with the jingoistic conspiracy theories.
     
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    Horhey, please explain your comment.
     
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    That's all Red Scare bullshit too. Propaganda being used to silence dissent on social media.
    Are you asking me what McCarthyism is?
     

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