Stonewall Jackson created a school for blacks, has a memorial in a black church.

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  1. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If anyone watches the movie God's and Generals it is easy to see Stonewall Jackson was a good man. He was a christian man of God but he was also a slave owner and struggled with this over his life as he viewed slavery as wrong. He only joined the south because Virginia was his home and he felt the need to protect that home. He was not perfect but he did love all people.

    One of the most interesting things about him was that he was partly raised by an African American slave and he came to view African American's as family. So he did something nobody in Virginia had done and he could have been arrested for it. He started a school for black people.

    He even had a memorial in an African American church. If only African American's would educate themselves they would see Stonewall Jackson is not the evil man they make him out to be. He is likely the one exception as I could not find any evidence the rest of the confederate generals was against slavery.

    So should Stonewall Jackson be an exception? I say keep a statue of him but not one that remembers him from the war but for the kindness, love and work he did for African Americans.

    What do you all think?
     
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    The vandals and criminals too stupid to know or care. Vandals do vandalism, doesn't matter why. Its fun to them.
     
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    I know little about Jackson and his politics but I know that not every Confederate General was Forrest. It was also a time when the state was your first priority, even before the country. Many men ended up fighting for a cause they didn't believe in because of that.
     
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    I know and that is where their message gets lost. The majority of Antifa are only showing up to these events to start trouble and the left needs to distance itself from Antifa.
     
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    Exactly. Jackson was probably in the minority but he was a good man of God. Lee also fought to protect Virginia. Interestingly is the fact that Abe tried to get Lee to join the north at the start of the war. Now I don't know how good of a man Lee was but I do know his reason for supporting the south was to protect his home of Virginia.

    As you put it well not every confederate was Nathan Bedford Forrest.
     
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    Good man? What about all the indians he killed with his indian removal act.
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have not researched this one. Do you have a link for me?

    Having said that all you did was deflect from my actually question. He was a good man to African Americans or do you disagree?
     
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    Just google Jackson and read all about it. To answer your question to blacks maybe, but what about the indians, or maybe to democrats indian lives dont matter.
     
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    Fact is... FACT, not opinion is, that if we are going to start removing monuments based on human rights violations associated with distant past times and people in question, then we must tear EVERYTHING down. For example, the Revolution was won by slaveowning people, could not have been won without slavery, and slavery as an institution is associated with every world government I'm aware of historically... especially African, Middle Eastern and Asian governments. So let's get busy advocating to tear down ALL historical monuments EVERYFINGWHERE on the planet. Any other "selective tear down" position is inconsistent and moronic.

    The important things about history are that we have advanced from it and have learned from our mistakes, not the actual facticity of it. Trying to erase or conceal that is a fool's errand with counterproductive results.

    I'm pretty sure we will end up serfs of the Chinese, a far more rational people than what our "stellar" effeminate experiments with central statism have produced. Start learning Mandarin. Blessedly this will occur after most reading this are dead, so we won't have to suffer the humiliation of our flagrantly, obviously failed cultural missteps.

    Oh, and incidentally, Forrest DISBANDED and DISAVOWED the KKK in his lifetime. Of course this is concealed conveniently to keep the ignorant... ignorant and keep fake bogey men relevant.
     
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