Stop talking right now about the threat of climate change. Its here; its happening

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The points are meaningless if evaluated critically.

    So agree with me or suffer the consequences ?? That's a mature reaction to differing fact based opinions.

    What is your definition of a Climate Change Denier ??
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some rebuilding a House and life in a Floodplain for the 4 time.

    Next!
     
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    What is your point ?? Hurricanes have been hitting that area for thousands of years.

    The real question is why gov provides money for rebuilding in those areas.
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ... and I don't care, because I know how to get out and stay out of it's way.

    BTW, a President tried to place regulations on rebuilding in those areas, but you know, he was Black, so now I don't give a crap.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    IOW, you dont believe your own hype. Beautiful.
     
  6. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh I believe in Science, my Career and everything I've accomplished in life and been based on my studies in Science and my earning power because of Science.

    But do I care if deniers believe in Science or not ... ?

    Not in the least.

    Hell, once a week I fill my tank with the remnants of Climate Deniers.
     
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    The real science Deniers are those that turn a blind eye to inconvenient science and skepticism of the activist dogma.
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you say so, BTW, do you live on a beach in Florida or The Golf?
     
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    Why? Do you think no one has ever had to deal with weather before?
     
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    Ok, lets go with that theory. Now we watch. If 2018 and 2019 do not result in progressively more severe weather, we can begin to discredit this theory. --pete--
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yea I did ... once
     
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    The article doesn't answer my question.

    Interesting that you think forcably moved. Why do dems always want to put their enemies in internment camps?
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Didn't write the article and my thinking was reported in the article.
     
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    So in other words, this could be a completely natural occurrence for current conditions.
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Has anything you witnessed looked like a completely natural occurrence?

    I can't speak for your life experiences.
     
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    I've witnessed a lot of natural occurances. Climate changes over hundreds and thousands of years. I can say with absolute certainty that current conditions have happened before.
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Man ... you're Old
     
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    As others have already point out the recent hurricanes and other individual events represent weather and not climate. You can't make any conclusions about global warming from a handful of hurricanes or record highs.
     
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    Yep - it's all about racism in the most racist country in the history of the world - the USA.
     
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    And then after temps continue to rise, you'll have the same deniers saying let's wait a couple more years. It's been going on for 35 years now.
     
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    How about a 71% increase in Extreme weather rainfall events in the Northeast from 1958 to 2012? Up 37% in the Midwest and 27% in the Southeast.

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    I will point out that this is not more rainfall, but an increase in heavy rainfall events. From the website, here's the definition.

    Percent changes in the amount of precipitation falling in very heavy events (the heaviest 1%) from 1958 to 2012 for each region. There is a clear national trend toward a greater amount of precipitation being concentrated in very heavy events, particularly in the Northeast and Midwest.

    http://nca2014.globalchange.gov/highlights/overview/overview
     
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    So first, you say that the data was manipulated, which implies that you don't believe that AGW is occurring. Once challenged, you resort to some warped, unsubstantiated viewpoint that AGW will be beneficial. You're all over the map.
     
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    I'm completely consistent. Those points have been confirmed by myself and others consistently in this sub forum.

    Global warming is indeed occurring. Very very few do not believe that. The globe has been warming since the mid 1800's when the LIA ended.

    Your conclusions from my post and the discussions in this sub thread are bizarre.
     
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    Go to the IPCC. Even they disagree with the bogus claim that global warming has anything to do with weather. At the least please recognize that any trend in a specific area over a specific time frame is meaningless with regard to global climate.
     
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    Due to the same weather pattern that gave us the Laurentide ice sheet.
     

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