Straight People and the LGBT Community getting along.

Both.

My personal opinion is that prosecution of a Physician for example of not wishing to refer to a Patient that She or He knows is Male,
As Female, is not a Criminal offence.

However, discretion is advisable.

I had a freind when I was 9, and he was a regular boy, 9 too, then he stared wearing a girl's short frock dress, wanted to be called Brenda and not Ben, Even his parents did not hinder him.

Oddly the other children, even bullies gave him a pass or wide berth and did not bother him, there was a very oddish cleanly but Evil seeming cold fish like quality about him, much like the boy Damien in the Movie "The Omen" ...

Once a nice boy everyone called "Cousin Olaff" he was a huge boy, laughingly asked why Benny he acted so queer, (Strange) and Benny now Brenda, walked up to him and punched him in his genitals, knocking him unconscious.

To make things worse, he started telling the children he worhipped the Devil, and children now openly feared him.

The clincher was Brenda / Benny petting and talking to a huge Rottweiler, a strange dog nobody had ever seen before, being walked etc...

The Rottweiler appeared suddenly one day in the school yard during lunch and left on it's own before any school personnel knew of it.

A legend soon began, and in the legend oftentimes repeated, the Rottweiler appeared suddenly, spoke to Brenda / Benny and poofers, disappeared, vanished in a puff of smoke, some said, so the Rottweiler was taken for a "Devil" and Brenda / Benny an Evil Devil Worshipper etc....

Nobody bothered much with Brenda / Benny after that.

Except for Hello and goodbye.

 

Show me an actual example of this, please.

Edit: Since it won't let me delete, as you did provide an example in a later post....

That law will not last past it's first application. A lawsuit will immediately go up and it will topple before it hits SCOTUS.

 

Have you ever been ridiculed or demeaned because you were heterosexual? The point of the Pride events is to get people to not be ashamed of what they are, as those who oppose their very existence try to make them.

 

Reality is and was that our planet moves around the sun. Yet there was time that agreeing with reality was considered unhealthy. People know better now because we have learned differently. We are now learning that our concepts between sex and gender did not perfectly match reality. And like many people had to back when the heliocentric model of our solar system was first proposed, we will slowly learn to accept what reality is, and not what we thought it was.

 

Are "cis gender white male members of the patriarchy" ridiculed or demeaned in 2018? Hm let me thinyes we are.

 

The law has already been used successfully to sue people.

 

If you have a penis you are not a woman.

Lopping it off, wearing a dress, popping steroids and putting on lipstick doesn't make you a woman.

 

..Here is the thing, if a person wants a fantasy persona, and wear a costume, Soup-man, Widder-Woman, what is it to you ?

We know there is no such thing, same as a Man that is in his mind a Woman, it does not affect other Women and fools nobody.

Why waste the short time one has to enjoy life being miserable ?

Just as all this Ineffable twaddle over bathrooms.

Much Ado over nothing, Simply have no gender bathrooms anyone of any gender identity can use, I hate huge multi stall bathrooms anyway,
I prefer single person hygienic cubicles.

 

I don't care what someone does until it affects me, like being sued for not playing along with someone's mental illness and calling them "zir" or whatever nonsense they created today in their playdoh.

What if someone thinks they're a dog? Should you be required to recognize them legally as a dog? When you object that they're humping your Pug are you at fault ? No THEY'RE NOT A DOG.

What if someone has xenomelia? Should doctors be legally required to start chopping off arms and legs?

 

You embark on a faulty line of reasoning, if I remember correctly, hysterical resonance, that may be the incorrect term.

It is a premise based on outlandish ideas couched within reasonable concepts.

Example: If machine guns are readily available, more people will go nuts and kill huge numbers of people.

It ignores certain facts,
machine guns are legally available.

Machine guns can be manufactured illegally or stolen from Military Armories or purchased from Soldiers that steal them.

There are more effective and efficient methods of killing vast numbers of people.

Gun control is a reaction that is couched within reasonable concepts, but not based on actual facts.

Fact; guns do not cause crime anymore than a fever causes influenza.

Fever is a symptom of disease, not a cause.

Guns in the hands of criminals is a symptom of the problem and not the cause of the problem, ie crime.

 

I have no idea what you're talking about.

A human is either genetically male, genetically female, or has some kind of extremely rare chromosomal mutation.

A man that demands you consider them a woman is no different than a man that demands you consider them Lord of the Universe.

They are both mentally ill, by definition.

If your mind does not perceive reality as it is, then the problem is quite literally in your head.

I don't care if someone wants to think they're a woman, but I will not be told I have to defy reality and agree with their mental issues.

 

Here is where you should see where I was going with this line of reasoning.

When I was a lad, there was a developmentally impaired 18 year old man that thought he was a traffic officer, he actually performed a useful function, he directed traffic at the same corner, helped people cross safely, local police actually trained him and asked him to work that corner and supervised him.

But he was not officially a traffic officer.

There are many people that say they are Prophets, Oracles, and other Mystical Religious Figures, are they ?
Or is it a Mental illness ?

I had a Neighbour just claim (tonight) that he was watching me by means of a hidden camera, not likely, however, it made me nervous, I do not like the idea of people invading the privacy of my humble home.

This type of person could be mentally ill.

If a Man feels there is an error and mentally feels that he is really a woman, this is an identity issue, however, he cannot expect any interaction with others to be governed strictly according to his feelings or perception.

Even with SRS (surgery) there are many issues involved in a relationship between that person and a potential mate, and full disclosure / transparency, would be of paramount importance without any attempt at deception.

If a man thinks he is a woman, you do not have to date them or marry him.

As long as he does not in any way harass you or interfere with you, you both go your separate ways.

 

Except there are people out there, right now, telling you there's something wrong with YOU if you don't want to date a trans "woman".

You're a bigot in their mind because you don't agree with their mental problems.

I don't care how they live their lives, but I'm not going to allow them to tell me I have to participate in their delusion.

A delusional person who thinks they're a police officer helping people across the street isn't going to cause any problems.

If that same person started trying to arrest people and bring them to jail would the police be ok with that?

There's a line where someone's mental illness falls between "poor guy" and "ok, that's enough".

Well, that's enough with demanding we date men in dresses and memorize whichever of the 3000 pronouns they want to be called by today.

 

So if you are born with a vagina you are not a male?

And why is it that, until prompted, opponents always go with the MtF or the gay males in these types of debates? It's like they are more upset over males doing these things than females.

 

First off, show me any medical professional who has complained that they have been forced to perform SRS. If no doctor exists that is willing to perform the procedure, be it SRS, abortion, xenomelia amputation, whatever, then no one can get it. The right to have it done does not require the forcing of someone to do it to you.

 

And there are people out there telling me there is something wrong with me if I do. What is the difference? Why should we allow one and not the other?

As one who does education of alternative lifestyles, and has a lot of interactions with the trans community, as well as many others, that is a minority and even most trans feel these people are stupid. As is, odds are you probably already call one or two trans by their gender (identity) pronouns, instead of their sex (birth) pronouns. It's amazing how many post transition trans are indistinguishable from cis. Also, most trans use either the male or female pronouns. It is the gender fluid who keep coming up with different new pronouns. Another ridiculous thing that most of the communities feel is wrong.

 

A Physician can call a Psych consult and defer surgery or refer a Patient to another Physician for many reasons that are perfectly within medical ethics and legality.

 

I don't have a problem with that and I don't think your average person would.

People have a right not to accept, or even understand, other people's choices for themselves. What we don't have a right to do is demand to be agreed with on punishment of law.

 

I didn't say that they had. I'm saying that demanding we comply with body dysmorphia in one case begs the question why we wouldn't in that case.

 

The only caveat there are people who are born with some kind of rare genetic disorder. I recognize there are people out there like that. For them, that is their reality and they don't fit into a particular mold.

That said, it is rare, and the people most vocal about this stuff are not those individuals.

I have no idea. Perhaps as a male you would think of it from a male perspective changing to a woman.

 

imagine that it's only ********s and ****** bags that are ********s and ****** bags.

Very well said. Most people can get along without thinking much about their differences and what others think of them. Most people aren't the aforementioned groups. Thank all goodness.

 

I do. Consenting human adults only imo.

 

Revealing that you view "Speaking out against Islam" as wishing "Mulims harm"

 

I have nothing really against homosexuals and bisexuals its a normal deviation in the population, but Trans persons are mentally ill, if it was a real thing we would see examples in nature among especially higher primates, we see same gender behavior in nature unless you can provide evidence to me from multiple sources its clearly against nature.

 

Yes Dixon, what of it?
You gotta problem with that?