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Studies supporting Ivermectin are flawed/fake and even retracted

Discussion in 'Coronavirus Pandemic Discussions' started by CenterField, Oct 16, 2021.

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  1. Joe knows

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    I knew a guy who I tried to get to take the vaccine and wound up getting COVID and all he used was this stuff and he went from deathly ill to way better overnight. So I wouldn’t be surprised if big pharma doesn’t want people to take something so simple. I’m not an anti vaccine guy either but when you see it work how can you argue with it?
     
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    At the end of the day...who cares? If someone wants to take ivermectin because they feel protected...go for it. Don't force that on me but you do you. It's not going to hurt you as it's a drug that's been proven safe for years.

    If you end up getting covid, GREAT! you just found immunity. Good for you.

    The hysteria of those who are mad that some people don't want to take the ****ing vaccine is beyond ridiculous. WAAAAA you can't control everyone! WAAAAAAA
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The degrees doctors receive after completing years of study gives them some credibility. Surely that has to count for something or else why award them a degree and/or providing them employment in medical facilities?
     
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    It seems to be a matter of some wanting complete dominance over others while undermining their right to choose for themselves. Maybe it makes them feel important, and politically on top, when they can get others to obey. Very autocratic in theory.
     
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    It's been said that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Perhaps after being in power for so long (some for an entire lifetime) many of these politicians have reached the pinnacle of power where it almost takes on an evil characteristic.
     
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    The above holds true for most Do as I say, not as I do, power structures. ;)
     
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    Do we?
    Mind you I agree that the US medical system, compared to countries with a UHC is a complete and utter mess that is not delivering value for money

    Now I WATCHED the data from around Australia as the vaccines were rolled out (remember UHC = centralised data tracking) we went from before vaccinations, for every four patients admitted to hospital one was in ICU, ventilated, to now (we are over 90% vaccinated in Aus) it is around 12:1 and not all of those in ICU are ventilated. It costs over $5,000 PER DAY a for one patient in ICU (average) and someone has to pay that bill
     
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    ((Sigh)j). How can you Yanks get it so wrong? You strut about your “democracy” and have fits over the fact we are a constitutional monarchy still but then grizzle and gripe about how YOU are not in control…

    You elected officials are not your masters THEY ARE YOUR SERVANTS. They are only in office because YOU put them there and if they do not perform then you put in someone who will
     
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    Have you LOOKED at her beliefs? Just because you have ‘Dr” in front of your name does not automatically make you an expert x especially if she is from an area in the world where degrees can be bought and sold
     
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    Actually we all looked at the original data indicating it MIGHT be of use and saw the red flags
    1. in vitro experiment not in vivo
    2. Very few supporting studies
    3. Even the in vitro studies were-suggesting that the therapeutic levels required for effectiveness would be close to toxic levels
    You would not take a medication that had not been through a thorough clinical trial surely?
     
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    Really? Then how did it become so widely known?
     
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    Why ask me a question? Show me how it has been promoted. I'm saying that Joe Rogan never promoted that medicine other than matter of fact saying he was prescribed it by a licensed physician..

    That was not the only medicine he mentioned but for whatever reason idiots made an issue of it and slandered him and wanted him to die.

    So please provide us the proof of how this was promoted.
     
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    "We"? You and Joy Behar? You are a doctor now?

    Since when it this your decision to make?

    You aware that I have in no way at all advocated or promoted ANY medication for Covid? Go back and read my posts. I also think it is idiotic for ANYBODY to politicize a drug or medication either being for or against it. So why are you doing it?
     
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    I've seen a few of the alleged comments she's accused of making. Haven't seen direct evidence, so this amounts to hearsay.

    Of course having a title in front of your name doesn't grant automatic credibility. I think of that fact every time I see Dr. Faucet speak.
     
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    In the last presidential election it was not so much that the "people" put Biden "there" as much as them not wanting Trump "there". And that was largely due to Biden hanging out in his basement while the MSM carried his water and accused Trump of bungling the covid pandemic. "Never let a crisis go to waste." campaign/propaganda paid off working off the fears of hyperventilating covid fear mobs.
     
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    It's usually a referendum on the status quo, keep the guy or try somebody different.

    We wanted different.
     
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    There is nothing enlightening about democrats today.
     
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    Some but it is not a pass with “all knowing” on it

    Medical officers should be basing decisions on EBP. Evidence Based Practice and there was precious little evidence supporting an off label use of ivermectin
     
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    So? Then It worked

    Elected officials are your employees not your masters
     
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    And I have looked at the research itself

    Fauci has massive credibility in the medical world - the “demon sperm doctor” not so much
     
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    WE

    All those trained in and capable of critical analysis of research

    And if you are not advocating for this drug why are you arguing with me about it? I am merely stating the science
     
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    Faucet is a liar. One that at least admitted that he lied. I find it difficult to put much trust in liars no matter what title you put before their names.
     
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    Odd, that a lot of these elected officials think they are our masters implementing mandates that we object to. But that's alright. Hopefully come the midterms many of these elites will be fired. If not then those that vote for them deserve neither security, nor freedom.

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yea. Covid didn't hurt Biden getting elected. And despite that he still has not shutdown the covid virus.



    Meanwhile the inflation rate keeps going up and up and up.
     
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