Study Shows Poor White Kids Less Likely to be Imprisoned Than Rich Black Kids

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  1. tsuke

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    Your choice was rubio? o_O the one who would put in more free trade? The one who would not do everything he could to stop illegal immigration as its tranferring money out of the economy to put in another one? The one who would continue commiting the US to paying for the defense of everyone worldwide?

    o_O why o_O
     
  2. AmericanNationalist

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    I loved his economic plans and his education plans in general. And like I said, a phased immigration withdrawal is probably smarter and more feasible. That, along with a strengthened border is probably very close to the ideal and may in fact be the ideal result for the US moving forward.

    But yes, he's a free trader, yes he's a neo-conservative. I do loathe those policies and that war like mentality. But I do think generally, the lines have been drawn around the world along the lines that the neo-cons have seen. It's just a matter of navigating them.

    I basically wanted Rubio as a pragmatic conservative, strong on education and jobs, even if weaker in all the other areas that I wanted. What choice did I have, when Trump looked bare and is still way too bare for my liking. Never a Clinton or any Democrat again. And no, I'm not a Republican by trade.

    Basically, the strongest domestic policy had my support. But right now, I guess it's either a prayer for Trump or FORGET IT because I think I hate Ted Cruz more than Hillary Clinton lol.
     
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    Character matters. Rubio's has been revealed and his scumbaggery trumps policy.

    Screw him.

    Looks like Cruz might be next. I'll cut him loose in a heartbeat too.
     
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    but his economic plan starts with free trade. At this point in history anything that starts with free trade in the US is doomed to fail @___@
     
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    I agree, I have a relative, he is white, he has been in and out of prisons, it's his attitude more then anything that keeps him on that path

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  7. AmericanNationalist

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    There were awesome some unique domestic stuff in there. There was more good than bad economically. It was a choice I was willing to live with. I'm not so impatient with the concept of Nationalism that I'll allow Donald Trump to run with it. But now it appears I have no choice in the matter. It's either him or Hillary. And I think Hillary is far more deceptive than Donald ever could be. Liberals are fooling themselves if they think they can trust Ms. Globalist herself.
     
  8. superbadbrutha

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    So black folks don't hire white lawyers.

    So all black kids produce and sell crack.

    Wow this post are some of the most racist, asinine I have read on this forum to date. I have son who is a freshman in college, great grades, has never been arrested, probably wouldn't know what crack was if you put it in his hand.
     
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    Let's see , could it possibly be they commit the crimes ? Why does a pro football player shoplift when he make millions ? Where do you think 99% of the drugs are sold ? Who do you think is selling all those drugs ? These are such BS stories !
     
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    Money is at the root of most violent crime, is it not?

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    Who are they selling the drugs to? Who brings the drugs into these communities?
     
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    I would think rape, pedo's and many murders have nothing to do with money.
     
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    When are a lot of women are raped it is durng a robbery. Many murders are committed during a robbery. Many murders are committed over drugs which comes back to money.
     
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    This phenomenon has been investigated and the result: black kids are more likely to be arrested for the same crimes, more likely to be convicted for the same crimes, and face harsher sentencing for the same crimes.

    For instance, even though whites smoke marijuana at about the same rate as blacks and whites are more likely to be dealers, blacks are more likely to be arrested for it and more likely to receive prison time.
     
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    Yes, studies conclude that black IQ scores are substantially below that of Whites and Asians.......I think this is what leads to a higher black crime rate.......this holds true wherever blacks live in the world and their economic status.......which this study proves. As you said. lower IQ leads to not thinking about consequences and tomorrow.
     
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    Yea that goes up there with black men have smaller brains than white men and Asians.
     
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    I think it comes a close second to passion.
     
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    Anyone one with $10 ! Let me guess the Mexicans ?
     
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    Are you trying to say that studies don't prove a difference in IQ between the races? If so, that is incorrect on your part. That does not mean that there are some blacks (like you SuperBad) with high IQs and some Whites/Asians with lower IQs.......but the averages work out that Whites/Asians, in general, have higher IQs which correlates to their lower crime rates.
     
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    I think the problem is cultural more than anything. No matter what color they are, which neighborhood is more likely to produce criminals. There is a counterculture that promotes crime and ignorance. I suspect that crime is worse in areas where traditional American values like hard work, and education are shunned. Illegal aliens have quit learing English and trying to become "American". Who equated academic success with "acting white"? As pointed out, Asians do well in America and I think it's because they have decided that hard work and getting an education has value more than most of America has.

    I have an in-law who spent some time in prison for tax evasion back in the 80s before I met him. I guess he learned his lesson because he works very hard and is a very successful businessman with dozens of happy employees.
     
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    Who gave you that gem , Bill Clinton ? :roflol:
     
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    This is what the man who discovered the double helix has to say about black people and the prospects of Africa:
    There is definitely a strong correlation between how people define their race according to the check boxes and their performance with how society has defined intelligence. Nobody has figured out exactly why this is, but genetics, societal, and economic forces are most certainly a factor. However, in reality ethnicity/race isn't just black or white like we define it on check boxes. Like with Europeans, there are subsets of the African population that do better than others. People who define themselves as descendants of the Igbo tribe tend to outperform Africans as a whole just like those who define themselves as Ashkenazi Jews outperform Europeans as a whole. The question is, how much do genetics play a roll? Nobody has conclusively proved or disproved that people who check the white box are genetically geared to perform better than those who check the black box. The main theory as to why there's still a large gap when controlling for socioeconomic status and parental performance is societal discrimination. Many people believe that, because blacks with higher socioeconomic status are looked at funny, stopped by police more, and are supposedly told throughout their lives "they can't succeed, because blacks are stupid" they perform worse than white kids with lower socioeconomic status. I'm not going to rule it out, but I question as to why the gap hasn't improved at all from the days of Jim Crow when things were much worse until now.
     
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    Yea that's who, thxs for clearing that up for us.

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    I can do a study and generate the info to say pretty much anything I want. Why do you think most studies are at best theories and not absolute.
     
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    How credible are these studies? Got a link? Does your theory of lower iq correlating to higher crime rates come from the same studies or different ones? Got links? Does correlation equal causality?
     
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    What you've said here is true. Many poor black communities are filled with crime and gangbangers. Sadly, the majority of black children are born out of wedlock, roughly 71%. So now this creates a cesspool. Children need parental guidance and if they don't have that then they look elsewhere for guidance. Most black children have no fathers or positive male role models, so they are easily influenced and even look to older males for role models, that's what kids do. Sadly the role models they have are usually bad people.

    If the only male role models around you are gangsters and thugs then you are probably going to be a gangster or thug because there's nobody around to tell you NOT to do that. Then when you grow up you become the role model for children and the cycle continues.

    These children are also born into a community that promotes violence and criminal activity. Being a "thug" isn't a bad thing it's seen as a GOOD thing. You're "cool" if you're a thug. The music promotes gang life and drug dealing and violence, many of the most popular rap artists out there made their millions by glorifying being a gang banger selling dope and murdering people. As a child with no role models these people are seen as cool, that's who you want to be like when you get older and there is nobody to tell you no. Go ask most people who the best rapper in history was, most will tell you 2Pac. A man who glorified being a gangster shouting Thug Life. A man who made multiple songs depicting violence and murder and is praised by so many as some sort of a hero.

    It's just a mess. These kids don't have anybody to pull them away from that culture of violence. They current gangsters and thugs prey upon these children because they know they can. Kids are recruited into gang life at early ages because they have no fathers to pull them away. Their friends are thugs, their older brothers, cousins, even some parents are thugs. That's all they know.

    I'm all for personal responsibility but we have to understand that this really isn't all their fault. You are a product of your environment regardless of what race you are. If I took a brand new born white baby from America and put him in an African Zulu tribe then he's going to grow up as an African Zulu. If I took a brand new black baby from Africa and had him raised by a Chinese family in China then he's going to be Chinese. That's the way it works.

    Just like if I took a brand new baby from a rich neighborhood in Beverly Hills and had him raised by gangsters in Compton then he's going to be a gangster.

    These kids aren't born thugs, they are created by the communities they are born into. And without anyone there to drag them away from it then that's all they will ever know. And the cycle will continue.
     
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    It goes up there with black men having the exact same brain size compared to white men at birth. And than due to nutrition it can change. Poor nutrition comes from mostly a poor social economic status. And the white managed to manipulated that status by banning black people from good education and jobs 20 years after the end of WWII by law in the US.
     

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