Study Shows Poor White Kids Less Likely to be Imprisoned Than Rich Black Kids

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  1. Iron River

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    the smart ones hire white ans as we saw with the killer OJ they get off.



    Some of the ones on trial did.



    SB, I was responding to a post that claimed that crime was driven by los academic achievement and related that to the fact that poor white kids commit crime less than rich Black kids to and thought that if that is true the poor white kids must study harder than rich Black kids.

    In the case of Mike Brown violence for the sake of violence was at the root of his crimes and what got him killed. The popular "knock-out" game isn't about money but a social ill that exists at the bottom of all cultures.

    I hate to say that I know you better now. You justify rape as a mere after though of a robber. "Might as will rape the **** now that we robber her worthless ass." "Ya, we goin a kill her anyways."

    But with our bigger brains, and mine is huge, we accept that Asians are a smarter race. That doesn't mean that you aren't the smartest man alive but the Black culture ahs historically not focused on intelligence as much as appearance. As long a the women are allowed to pick according to looks over intelligence little progress can happen.

    The Asian race being the furthers out of Africa in stands to reason that the dumbasses never made it to Japan. The culture was dominated by the smartest man and he had the most women so his genes dominated. The same is true for the Europeans that had to survive a challenging climate and each other.
     
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    Same way a lot of white communities teach their children that them ex-slaves and people who they legally were able to oppress 20 years after WWII are bad. Until recently slaver flag waving for the white race was a perfectly well accepted social thing.

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    Doesn't mean a thing. You know who got the smallest brain?
    It's the women.
     
  3. superbadbrutha

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    Last time I checked Johnnie Cochran was a black man.


    Kind of like the white ones produced and sold meth, but funny how the prisons aren't filled with them.


    Some black kids who are well off get caught up in the crime life, because they watch too many videos and movies and are fascinated by that life style until they get caught up in it.

    Where in the hell have I ever justified a woman being raped. Produce that lie, liar. My comment was that many rapes occur during a robbery I didn't say a damn thing about it being justified.

    I guess that is why you see good looking white women with some of the most nerdy white guys.

    Wow let me run to Home Depot and get me a pair of rubber boots, because the (*)(*)(*)(*) is getting thick in here.
     
  4. Stuart Wolfe

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    Power is. A lot of rape cases have robbery as a secondary motivation, the concept of dominating someone is the primary one. With murder - well heck, just look HERE or HERE as to why people murder. Surprisingly, money isn't mentioned that often. Heck, for murder stats that have little to nothing to do with money, look HERE.

    Money isn't at the root of as much violent crime as you might think. Sure, it might be a part of it, but ultimately not the root cause.
     
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    Then you turn on the TV and see things like the Ferguson riots and the BLM folks running amok and it becomes difficult to counter argue that point...

    Just look at this forum alone, look at the amount of threads regarding race, mainly black people. Like I said it's all one huge vicious cycle with hundreds of variables. Many black people feel they have been shunned by society and mistreated and get frustrated and start acting out. Many white people see that and say "wow black people are crazy". The same black people then say "See white people hate us" and get more upset and act out more. Then the same white people say "Yup, look at them, told you they were crazy". And the cycle continues.
     
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    Turned on the tv one time and I saw the federal government going at the Ferguson justice and law office, how them white cops and judges had this policy of hunting the poor black community out of their money. And than there is something to be said about rights to overthrow tyranny. There is also something to be said about that people demand that the status quo must be held in place, and respect must be being given to the officers, even in the context of Ferguson.
     
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    I'm not picking sides I'm merely talking about perspective here. When you turn on the TV and see black people rioting and running amok like that then it sends a message that black people are crazy. The reason WHY black people were rioting in Ferguson and Baltimore and all that are irrelevant from a pure perspective standpoint, it's the fact that they ARE rioting and that's what people SEE.

    The majority of media coverage of black people is negative. Some of the coverage is warranted, some is not. Take those Baltimore riots a few months ago. All the media showed was the carnage, the looting, the violence, the arson, that sort of stuff. But in the middle of the carnage for about 30 seconds or so they showed a clip of civilized black people within that community condemning that type of behavior. A passive church group. They spoke to the Pastor I believe if I remember correctly.

    That clip got about 30 seconds. The carnage coverage got about a week of near 24/7 media coverage. Controversy = ratings and the media knows what the public wants to see. So they show the destruction and the violence instead of the peaceful civilized folks praying for their city that is being destroyed by the thugs.

    So that is the PERCEPTION people get about the black community. These people are insane look at this, they are destroying their own city, stealing from their own businesses, attacking police officers, burning down buildings, destroying cars. Meanwhile just outside of camera view there are civilized black people crying and praying for their city screaming at these thugs to STOP. But they won't show you that.

    Now don't get me wrong here, there ARE a lot of black people right now who have seriously lost their damn minds. And I mean A LOT. But not ALL black people are like that, but if the media only shows the crazy ones then that is the perception society is going to have of black people in general. And it becomes more and more difficult to convince others that not ALL black people are like that when the ONLY black people they ever see ARE like that.
     
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    Who in the world moved this thread from current events??? It's about as political as you can get in this climate and is most definitely a current event.

    Bad, bad move, too darn much moderation, in fact it's ridiculous!
     
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    try something new, let the men start to keep the children and the women pay child support, children born to single parent house holds will reduce big time

    ironically Abortion has been shown to actually reduce Crime as well for the same reasons you mention

    education and easy access to long term birth control is also a must

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    Barack Obama falls in that category.
     
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    Black people tend to be more emotional as well.
     
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    This is like one of those "Duh!" moments. :wink: Of course black kids are incarcerated at a higher rate than white kids. Anybody paying attention to incarceration statistics and contemporary events knows "doing anything while black" invites extra attention. The cops admit it, the more candid ones.

    The simple reason it is that way, is gross misuse of, abuse of, the criminal sanction, the threat of going to prison, by the government. They have imprisoned at least 2 CIA officers and whistleblowers. So happens one of them is black. :wink:

    Misuse of the criminal sanction by legislators is mostly responsible for what we have, the highest per capita rate of imprisonment in the world, for several decades.
     
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    If you took the crimes people should go to prison for, it would be less crowded, but blacks would still represent a disproportionate share of the population.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Arrests_and_sentencing
     
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    If you weren't picking sides you would start to mention as well how the cops and justice system looks like. The media flooded the airwaves with massive amounts of police misconduct. In almost all cases, the criminal thugs with badges are white, their victims are black. How did you miss that if you weren't picking sides?

    Your "I'm not picking sides" sounded like, "I don't want to sound racist"... and than go on a racist rant. Cmon.

    You mentioned Ferguson as an example.
    Let me remind you again, that this is a gem of an example how the predominantly white police force and justice department had a policy over there to extort the black community as a bunch of armed gangsters. If you weren't picking sides, than you would have added that to the equation about how white privilege works in that town and people have all the rights to overthrow the racist white tyranny.
     
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    I'm not picking sides Im telling the truth. It would be sort of hard for me to go on a racist rant against black people seeing how I'm black myself...

    I didn't mention the cops because I'm talking about PERCEPTIONS here, that is all. And explaining the reasons WHY so many white people look at black people in a negative light. If all they ever see on TV are black people acting a fool then that's going to be the PERCEPTION they get.

    Where were all of these news stories about the extortion of the black community by cops? Were they as prevalent as the 24/7 coverage of blacks running wild in the streets? The answer to that question is no they were not. Sure they ran a few side stories about other things, had the panels come on and discuss it among themselves and debate it. But the IMAGES and the VIDEO the media played were almost exclusively of the carnage and destruction the black rioters caused in those cities.

    Perception is reality, that's the way the world works. Most people don't care WHY you are mad, they just see that you are. Black communities could be 100% justified in being mad and basically revolting the way they did, but it doesn't matter, when people turn on the news and see them doing that then the conclusion they are going to make is that black people have gone crazy.

    And while we are on the subject I'm not going to sit here and defend those communities for what they did. We teach our children this when they are like 2 years old. You don't get to just throw a fit because you're pissed off, thats not how you get your way. Those communities went about this entire thing the wrong way and did themselves way more harm than good. Some will say they reached the breaking point and it boiled over, they felt like that was the only option left to get peoples attention. Yeah well wrong answer. It got everyone's attention alright but in a negative way.

    The sympathy for the cause these communities were fighting for is dead. Dead to the point where even people are defending the corrupt cops who treated them badly because they are saying "Look at these people acting like animals, no wonder the cops treat them like that I don't blame them". The BLM movement has been basically categorized as a racist hate group by society.

    When a cop shoots a black guy most people just flat out don't even care. Even if the shooting was questionable people still defend the cops saying things like "One less thug" "Yeah Trayvon was probably an upstanding citizen! haha". Why do they say that? Because they constantly see black people breaking the law, not engaging in peaceful protests but full blown riots, and overall running amok. They simply flat out don't CARE anymore.

    You keep trying to paint the picture like what these people did was justified given the circumstances. Well no it wasn't. They may think it was but it wasn't. Yeah I get it, the communities had enough and they wanted to take a stand. Well they just shot themselves in the foot because they have lost the support of the rest of society, support that is NEEDED if they want to ever see change.

    Perception IS reality. If they want support they CANNOT act like that. It will NEVER WORK, EVER.

    Like I said before, it's a vicious cycle. That's the topic of this entire thread, black people in general are mistreated more than white people regardless of social status. That needs to change. But in order for that to change SOCIETY has to care, not just the black community, but SOCIETY. And in order to gain the support of SOCIETY then black people CANNOT act the way we do in these inner cities because that's the number 1 reason why society doesn't care. As of right now society doesn't care because they see the way black people act and basically say "Yeah the police treat them like crap but who cares look at how they act I don't blame the cops for targeting them like that". So the cycle continues.

    The only way for that cycle to break is to gain the support of society itself. Until "we" do that, nothing will ever change. MLK Jr and the leaders of yesteryear showed black people how to achieve results through peaceful demonstrations and to come together and make a stand that would gain the support of society towards their case. And I'm telling you, what we're seeing now....THIS IS NOT IT.
     
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    I think you nailed it....but of course that is waycist....bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa go ax da eagle....he will tell you dat is waycist!!!!! hehheh


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    This study's main flaw is the definition of affluence. The incarceration rate of rich black kids whose household wealth exceeded $69,000 was only 2.4 percent.
     
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    Well. There was absolutely nothing to be found in your perspective of the crap that white cops and justice department did to the poor black community in your Ferguson example.

    We all constantly get to see white cops killing unarmed black people.

    Negative. Society needs to bow or burst under the pressure of ending the institutionalized racist oppression as is what went on in Ferguson, and not wait until the black people won some popularity contest for society to suddenly care. You either care to end that racist tyranny, be totally impartial or be out of it's way when others end it bit by bit. All you got are some white folks whining that their slaver flag waving days are over. Nobody freaking cares about them and that part of the racist society. That's how it actually is.
     
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    Suit yourself. Keep on fighting this "revolution" and see how far it gets. Nothing will change until the black community changes. Don't want to change then so be it, not hurting my feelings.

    I just got done eating dinner at the country club in my nice suburban neighborhood. Now I'm sitting here drinking nice expensive whiskey out of one of my nice heavy expensive glasses for dessert. Sounds like my neighbors kids are outside playing soccer in the backyard. Tomorrow I'll drive my nice car to my nice well paying job, well if it doesn't rain, it looks like it might rain, if so then I'll drive my other vehicle to work instead.

    So yeah, have fun fighting your war, you guys REALLY aren't hurting my feelings. I can walk outside and take a stroll down my nice peaceful neighborhood and don't have to worry about the cops harassing me for no reason, or shooting me or anything like that. Cops actually wave to me, and I wave back.

    I'll support a peaceful black community who will adhere to the teachings of the REAL black leaders of yesteryear. I'll never support the crap they are doing now. But by all means, keep up the good fight, not bothering me none.
     
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    That is not a very good example, most crimes commited in white Appalachia go unreported, Calling the Police and having the Police accidentally discover illegal moonshine stills and other illegal enterprise's and illegal activities is a bad idea.
     
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    Your entire post is contrived drivel, you have often stated you do not reside in the U.S. and often criticise U.S. gun laws.

    I saw a report on Television news of a concealed carry permit holder, a church worker that captured a burglar breaking into a church, the police took the man into custody, it was all on surveillance video, looked very professional, the guy had a long criminal record.
     

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