STUNNING! IHME Reduces Their Model Predictions AGAIN! -- Now Say Peak Is ON EASTER and Only 60,000 D

STUNNING! IHME Reduces Their Model Predictions AGAIN! -- Now Say Peak Is ON EASTER and Only 60,000 Deaths ...Like a Typical Flu!

No surprise there. Was this flu overhyped or have responses been just that effective? It will be interesting to see what statistical analysis concludes in the future. Is the ratio of death to infection so low because it was overhyped or were the dire nature very real and the death ratio so low only because the entire nation and most of western civilization self-isolated?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ay-peak-easter-60000-deaths-like-typical-flu/

 

This would be awesome news if it works out.

 

Good news is hard to find. Thank you for that.

 

If we needed these kinds of measures just to bring it down to the deaths we'd expect from a typical flu . . . it is way worse than the typical flu. Think.

Also, this is complete nonsense. 60,000 is far on the upper end of flu deaths . . . not "typical". Words mean things. Also, the model referenced predicts far more than 60,000. So . . . almost everything in the headline is a lie. Peaking on Easter may be true, and I hope it is, but that's the only sliver of potential truth in the OP. Epic fail.

The ONLY recent year range where the "typical" flu resulted in ~60,000 was 2017-2018. That's it. All other recent years were far lower (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html)

The only thing stunning about the OP are all of the lies.

 

We need to be seriously planning on opening the economy back up.

 

Bunk, we've had years with 88,000 flu deaths, this out of a population of 330,000,000.

 

Someone on this board was saying 2 million deaths. It's funny when you look back at it. I hope this doesn't lull us into a false sense of security though. I don't want to end the quarantine early and wind up back here again if we get a new outbreak.

 

Such numbers are far from "typical." See the link I provided. Don't call "bunk" while doing nothing but spreading it.

Care to share the last year when we had more than 80,000 deaths from the "typical" flu?

 

Buzz kill!

 

Reality check, not buzz kill. If reality kills your buzz, the problem was that you were disconnected from reality. At this point, being disconnected from reality and being an unrealistic "cheerleader" puts lives at risk. We need to be realistic.

There IS reason to celebrate. We may be reaching the plateau, which is AWESOME!

But using fake stats to claim this disease was basically no different from the common flu is a lie. It is a dangerous lie. It is a dangerous lie meant only to make people of a certain political persuasion feel better.

"Facts are depressing" is a poor excuse for ignoring the facts, especially when lives are on the line. It shouldn't be a "buzz kill" to put facts and lives over political worship.

If this is a controversial statement, then we have no values in common that could lead to a constructive conversation. One of us values facts and lives and one of us values "Ra ra ree!!!" at the expense of truth and lives.

 

You can't determine that.
Unless there were to be widespread random sampling, you have no idea just how many people are infected, and we have zero ability to determine if that number is any lower than it would be without these measures.

Feeling like we accomplished something v actually accomplishing something is not the same thing.

 

As always, wrong out of the gate. Not remotely surprised.

Unlike the current MORAL PANIC, a large portion of yearly flu deaths are attributed to their actual cause of death and not Flu or FLI, everything from heart attack, cancer, pneumonia, bad luck, etc. OTOH, this deep state SCAM of a HOAX of massive proportions, where even the crooks themselves admit they are tallying up any cold or SUSPECTED, UNTESTED cold to COVID is a farce of numeracy. Yeah, sure, kid, that's some precise counting going on there.

So who the F knows what the real numbers are in TDS-LW-Progressive-Bureaucrat-Complex Land? They LIE about EVERY OTHER THING IN THE WORLD. Rest assured thousands of pneumonia and regular flu cases are being magically shifted into the COVID boxes. It's WHAT THEY DO, LIE over and over and over.

"Think?" What a ****ing joke of irony.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/...w-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

Not going to link the (disease related) cause of the death charts where all other causes mysteriously decline rapidly as COVID increases. No need, will be millions of white hot people brandishing those soon enough.

No way their scammers, paid shills, MSM, other gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex, other crooks are going to be able to keep the lid on this, and good luck trying to deflect or project it onto Trump or the private sector. This one is pure Complex. Too many people are suffering real damage to quietly tolerate this scam once the dusts settles.

 

That "someone" was quoting the worst case CDC estimates under a theory that the US does absolutely nothing to stop or slow the spread of the virus.

Those worst case scenarios are the reason that we are currently taking very significant and draconian measures designed to bring down the estimate so significantly.

 

Health experts can determine that and have. "But maybe a lot more people got it" is a vapid argument. Maybe, sure, but given the exponential cases we do know about and the death rates of those cases, yes, it would be absolutely insane to claim this is no different from the common flu. It would be the equivalent of saying that maybe the seasonal flu is as deadly as the ebola virus because you don't know how many people have contracted ebola while remaining asymptomatic. No one is that ignorant. It is simply propoganda meant to protect certain political feeeeelz while ignoring potentially deadly facts.

It is deadlier than the seasonal flu. Even going by known cases, deaths far outpace anything we typically see from the season flu . . . even after taking drastic measures. Your feelings don't matter. The facts are this is far deadlier. Please accept reality and stop spreading false "skepticism" that stands to make things worse and undo the progress we've made. This shouldn't be a big ask.

 

I encourage you to do more homework and rely on facts over feelz. I'd ask you for evidence that the death tallies are calculated differently between the flu and COVID, but I won't hold my breath. Meanwhile, try holding the lives of others over your political agenda. Try. At least for the next few months. I continue hoping that isn't too much to ask.

Thinking isn't a "joke." Try it on for size.

 

Blablabla, yet another apologia/deflection when this world level scam blows up in the face of you and yours sooner rather than later. But keep rationalizing, will make the snide "likes" even more fun.

 

I'm sorry that you, by your own admission apparently, feel threatened by rationalization and facts. Should you ever decide to hold reason and facts over your political agenda, we can have a productive discussion. Otherwise, just try to think of the health and safety of others for a few months, instead of ignoring reality any time it threatens your political dogma.

 

"Feel threatened by rationalization...?" Mhmm. OK. And more blablabla, it's what you do when you have no response. Thanks for the bump though.

 

Once again, it looks like my prediction is closer than the experts, or forum hysterics.

 

I gave a fact-based response to the claims in this thread. None of which you've addressed. Facts > trolling, especially when lives are on the line. I wish we could agree on that.

 

That would be great news. Seems like the social distancing rules work.

Now, imagine how many deaths we would already have if the governors had followed Trump's lead and delayed shutting down public events even by one more week?

I know, however, what your point is: You want to scream "Dem hoax" and politicize these good news.

 

What "experts" claimed there would be 1.5 million deaths in the US, and are you ready to admit you were wrong about the number being less than this year's annual flu deaths?

 

Now, think about what the numbers would be if social distancing hadn't been practiced?

 

That's probably where the 1.5 million number comes from, which would make the comparison completely dishonest.

 

Estimates for 2017-18 have been as much as 80,000.