Mine are defined so that I can be accountable to them and those who hold the same ones. The 10 commandments for starters.Yours???
Mine were formed growing up by my parents, then reformed and reformed as I learned about the world..... my morals, like everyone else's ( who's honest) are not carved in stone...
That is exactly what I mean."All over the place".They change on a whim. You know, right and wrong ARE set in stone when you are introspective enough to seek it out. Emotions and culture cannot dictate morality. When it does, you have Sodom, Gomorrah and San Francisco.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Mine were formed growing up by my parents, then reformed and reformed as I learned about the world..... my morals, like everyone else's ( who's honest) are not carved in stone... Oh for pete's sake, I am surprised at you...what a reaction...didn't know you hated gays... Is hate part of your morals...? No, right and wrong are NOT set in stone. For instance, take the biggest not-set-in-stone there is: people shouldn't kill ..... Ya, unless they go to war.....or execute a criminal...or shoot a burglar..... How about people shouldn't steal....unless you can cheat on your taxes or skim a little off that collection plate at church, or cook your company's books. No, your 10 rules carved in stone never did help much...
So you for one, bear false witness against your neighbor??? Saying I hate gays? Where did you drum that one up? Just because I think their practice is immoral goes along way from hating them. So are you saying I cheat on my taxes? Prove it. I am entrusted with the collection plates at my place of worship, Show me where I have stolen from them. If you really rightfully divided the Word of Truth, you'd know the commandment is better translated "you will not murder or shed innocent blood, yet you cheer on Planned Parenthood for doing exactly that! Don't get me wrong Foxie.... we all fall short in one fashion of the other. The difference is, some of us aspire to those ten commandments and we are unashamed.
Ohgawd, I should've known you take it personally...seems to have hit home but I was using a generic "YOU" ... I just adore your Christian tendency to interpret your god's words for him......I grew having the Ten Commandments shoved down my throat and the words were always "Thou shalt not kill" ..not your tailor made: "Thou shalt not kill or shed innocent blood or have an abortion but going to war and slaughtering innocent "collateral damage" is OK " Don't get me wrong yabbiedodo, .... we all fall short in one fashion of the other. The difference is, some of us don't make excuses for our behavior, don't claim that if someone sins they aren't really Christians, and don't want to shove our morals down every one else's throats...
Show me Foxie....where did I say Christians don't sin? Christians don't walk in sin...that is a fact, but we are human and fall into sin from time to time. You reveal your religious mindset by using the King James version. I have read and studied it but could never bring myself to quote the Old English. Jesus spoke Aramaic...or Hillbilly Hebrew. He never cleaned it up to impress anybody. Did thou Mommy and Daddy speak in the king James dialect? When I study God's Word I often look in my Greek/Hebrew/ and Aramaic dictionary for clarification. That is how we rightfully divide the Truth. However, I get the same meaning from "Thou shalt not Kill because I study the ENTIRE Bible in context. I don't shove my morals down anybodies throat. However they are consistant, don;t change with the wind, are embraced by people of the Word all over the world, yet offend you somehow. Sorry. I know there is a part of you that is quite beautiful underneath the hardness you feel.
My grandfather left the Catholic church cause they woudl not let him marry his Baptist girlfriend, both still Christians all their life, but people will leave the church when they disagree with it enough
Oh, the cute little "typical of a Christian" insult there at the end.... adorable...and predictable... Nothing you posted changes a word I wrote...: FoxHastings said: ↑ Ohgawd, I should've known you take it personally...seems to have hit home but I was using a generic "YOU" ... I just adore your Christian tendency to interpret your god's words for him......I grew having the Ten Commandments shoved down my throat and the words were always "Thou shalt not kill" ..not your tailor made: "Thou shalt not kill or shed innocent blood or have an abortion but going to war and slaughtering innocent "collateral damage" is OK " Don't get me wrong yabbiedodo, .... we all fall short in one fashion of the other. The difference is, some of us don't make excuses for our behavior, don't claim that if someone sins they aren't really Christians, and don't want to shove our morals down every one else's throats..."""""" BTW, when someone breaks into your house and attacks you or your family I hope your morals change in the wind and you kill the creep....unless you just let him kill you...maybe you would since your "morals" are carved in stone...
Not to pick on the RCC but they do seem prone to doing what is NOT in the best interests of their flock. One example was the prohibition on the use of condoms during the AIDS epidemic and another is the ban on gluten free communion wafers. If the health and/or life of their parishioners is secondary to religious dogma then yes, I can appreciate why people would choose their loved ones over and above their religion.
Funny, You have more insight to the English language than I ever believed! There is the regular "you" and the "generic you". Never heard that. Does that apply to the term "you people" that so many blacks have found offensive these days??? How hypocritical. You are more "religious" than I ever gave you credit for.(I do not use the generic you here.) And to think....you believe your parents, and Christians in general, single you out to shove morals down your throat. What makes you so important to garner such attention? The problem you are having is this, your convictions are hard to ignore and that hard shell you build up has it's weak spots. If someone breaks into my home with intent to harm my family....that is not "innocent blood".....he is dead meat. It is not "murder" to defend oneself or family. Your understanding is incomplete. It is selective.
You are 100% correct Cerberus! The new "enlightened" morality would say, "It is o.k. to covet your neighbors wife if she dresses seductively and consents to a heated affair."
Exactly. When individuals invent 'grey areas' as a subterfuge to mitigate their own sins, that's when the problems begin because standards get blurred.
How easy life is for you........how do you determine what is right or wrong? The world just isn't made that way ....there are too many gray areas.....would you shoot an intruder if he threatened you or your family ...(Thou Shalt Not Kill was carved in stone ) As you get older and experience more of real life you'll find right and wrong just aren't so cut and dried all the time..
WHOA! Uh, WHO is being selective ?? The commandment says, Thou Shall Not KILL..."KILL" and THAT was what we were discussing, not Thou shalt not murder, we never mentioned "innocent blood". Another caught in that gray area......where MORALS CHANGE You:""And to think....you believe your parents, and Christians in general, single you out to shove morals down your throat."" I never said that so you are committing that sin Christians ignore so often, LYING. I think it's immoral to lie, you see nothing wrong with it ..........see how morals change from person to person
Oh for pete's sake, I am surprised at you...what a reaction...didn't know you hated gays... Is hate part of your morals...?
Thinking of going to the Congregational Church this Sunday as it is close. However, I will probably find it irksome as the congregation is headed by women, which I don't care for. Additionally, Protestant denominations, here in New England are very liberal/progressive. Those of you familiar will recognize the rainbow pins and whatnot, indicating an all inclusiveness. I don't think that homosexuals have a place in a Christian Church. This is why I will probably avoid church this Sunday. As a service should be an uplifting experience and NOT an exercise in mainstreaming perversity.
Yeah. We saw the "smoke"... and we saw the 'mirrors', too. But I won't dance around it: no, I don't consider Francis to be legitimate (not that anyone cares a damn for what I think)....
OK Foxie....I tried to get you to do a little research with understanding but here I'll do it for you. Let's break it apart..... THOU SHALT NO KILL Is that how you talk?? Dost thou use those words? Most of us who have moved on from the King James language. The word "kill" as used in your short-sighted interpretation of the Only "authorized version King James Bible" (authorized by King James) was translated from the ancient Hebrew. The word "rasah". Most other translations interpret that as "murder". How do we know that is the "proper interpretation"? This is the method. Remember the song by Peter Paul and Mary? "To every thing there is a season"? Well those words were taken out of Ecclesiastes 3 and written by Solomon the son of David. Solomon was granted a wish from God and all he desired was "wisdom". God granted him that. Solomon built the Temple and wrote the Book of Proverbs as well as others. If anyone knew the 10 Commandments, Solomon did. Back to Ecclesiastes 3..... Solomon says, "there is a time to kill'. The word there comes from the Hebrew word "harag" which means "to kill". Why does he use a different Hebrew word there than "rasah" which is used in the 10 commandments? Solomon does not contradict himself. See Foxie, you can do your own study if you really wanted to understand. Look at different interpretations and "rightfully divide the Word of God. Don't be so shortsighted. You did say you've had morals of others "shoved down your throat". First you said in your upbringing AND you have accused me of doing it too. So explain to me the lie I made. If I lied, I will turn from my wicked ways and eit as well as ask your forgiveness.
