Supervolcano beneath Yellowstone update: Caldera Volcano shocks researchers

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  1. Margot2

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    There is a video at the link... and a second article.

    Supervolcano beneath Yellowstone update: Caldera Volcano shocks researchers


    December 14, 2013


    A new study claims the supervolcano beneath Yellowstone National Park is larger than expected. The Caldera Volcano underneath Yellowstone Park, which hasn't erupted in 640,000 years, has a magma chamber that dwarfs previous estimates and has many wondering if the "apocalyptic" dome is ready to blow.

    The so-called supervolcano beneath Yellowstone is "much, much, much larger" than previously thought, as Epoch Times wrote on Dec. 13.

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    http://www.examiner.com/article/sup...one-park-caldera-volcano-larger-than-expected
     
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    Something to consider:

    "•A super-eruption would equal the force of 1,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs exploding every second.
    •You could fit Tokyo, the world's biggest city, in Yellowstone's super-volcanic crater.
    •Three super-eruptions at Yellowstone appear to have occurred on a 600,000-700,000 year cycle starting 2.1 million years ago. The most recent took place 640,000 years ago – suggesting Yellowstone is overdue for an eruption. "

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/supervolcano/article.shtml

    When this thing goes....so does this entire country. We will be either blown apart or buried in ash.
     
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    I think so too.. Its much larger than they thought.
     
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    It's going to kill us all twice over!
     
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    i think it might be time to retreat to Hong Kong?
     
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    I would rather go in the initial blast wave than die a slow miserable chocking death in Honk Kong. Makes me wonder if we could vent it to avoid a super explosion considering the accessibility of the terrain to massive equipment.
     
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    Yes a world without wifi or internet............no thank you lol
     
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    ;)

    The amount of debris thrown into the atmosphere would probably doom civilization in a matter of months IIRC from those History Channel end of the world shows.
     
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    Plant life would begin to die off without sunlight, water sources would be contaminated beyond use, the ash would settle and become concrete in the rain, animal life would be decimated within a few weeks, and humankind would turn on itself in short order...but hey, look at the bright side....shorter lines at Disneyland.
     
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    but this would not put any carbon in the air because our liberals friends have made it a carbon free zone in wyoming
     
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    We will use it or not, it will solve the world energy shortage, one way or another!
     
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    The aerosol dust in the atmosphere will get us.
     
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    there were no mass extinctions on the scale of dinosaur extinctions with the the previous eruptions that I'm aware of so I doubt Yellowstone would be a cataclysmic Krakatoa or Toba type eruption...my guess this more like a Deccan or Siberian Traps type event but on much smaller scale than those two apocalyptic giants...

    it makes me a bit uneasy as I'm in the geographic vicinity on the doorstep so to speak, even a slow gentle eruption of this size can produce enough emissions to cause a major disruption in the planets food supply...the last eruption probably wasn't much of a problem when the planet was populated by a few thousand hunter gathers and lots of food but we're now a planet of 7 billion, half of us Industrialized urbanites who have no hope of providing our own food...
     
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    we should drill a hole to vent the exhaust and build a massive catalytic converter to eliminate the co2 gases
     
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    Ha. In HK let alone Beijing the extra aerosols wont even be noticed.
     
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    I would think that if anything could heat some steam generators it would be a volcano :)
     
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    Philippines uses hydro thermal for a big percent of their energy.
     
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    The article or you print says 600-700K yr cycle and says last one was 640K yrs ago, suggesting it is overdue.
    It still has 60K yrs to go, it's not even 1/2 way through the cycle. So it may be due, but won't be overdue for another 60K yrs.

    If we get buried in ash, we will be fossilized for a long long time. I should get my name tattooed on my bones.
     
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    I say we best start tapping it now for it's electricity generation potential.
     
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    Why not vent it by turning it into a steam turbine electricity generating source? The Icelanders would love having it in their backyard.
     
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    what if you make a hole and it tries to get out?
     
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    That's what it's supposed to do. Drill a hole, cap it with a turbine/generator and voila!, electricity. AND, some little bit of pressure gets released from the caldera which wouldn't be a bad thing.
     
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    i meant if some of the magma decides to come out.

    AND, as easily as oil wells blow out, the pressure on top of a magma chamber would be fantastically greater. gasses first, of course.
     
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    The Icelanders live on a volcanic island complete with magma and gases, yet they manage to produce most of their electricity from geothermal. I guess we'd have to get a couple of their engineers over here to explain it to our engineers who are obviously behind the curve. I'm thinking, hey, release some pressure on the caldera and get some electricity out of the deal.
     
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    There is a lot of difference among types of magma, theirs is of a low silica sort and flows nicely.
    Also, it volunteered to surface on its own.

    Poking a hole into a chamber at depth, where the pressure has been building for hundreds of thousands of years might be very different.

    you might like to read about how the icelanders stopped a lava flow from destroying a fishing port, with fire hoses. if you have not already.

    I personally dont think anything we could do would stop that yellowstone magma, when you consider the enormous amount of heat involved and how slowly heat travels thru rock.
     

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