Supreme Court to review NYS gun control law

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  1. Turtledude

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    This is not earth-moving, but it is a start.
    I'd be happier of they challenged the licensing provision.
     
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    The fact the SC is taking up any gun cases is good for our cause. Too bad the asshat Republicans that had majorities in Congress did nothing about the hearing Protection Bill and Reciprocity.
     
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    Establishment Republican pols are very repulsive - like Democrat pols.
     
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    I'm not expecting much here. I think they'll make a very limited ruling that cities can't restrict what people do after they move out of the city limits and won't touch the 2A arguments at all. They normally do that when there is procedural or other nitpicky ****ery they can use to not have to address the actual argument and just kick the can down the road a ways.
     
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    You are likely correct on one thing; the petition submitted to the SCOTUS is limited in scope and not likely to result in any sweeping review of the 2A because they are not being asked to perform a broader interpretation of the RTKBA. The case will likely result in an incremental ruling building on Heller and other recent lower court precedent as gun related law challenges continue to percolate in the lower courts.
    As for a look at what the case might mean and potential outcomes I think David French’s discussion is a fair line of thinking on it.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/author/david-french/
     
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    There’s a new sheriff in town. Occam’s razor suggests that the cert grant is as simple as a change of personnel. While the four more originalist justices could have voted to take any of the significant cases above, it’s likely that there was real doubt (or real concern) about how Justice Kennedy would rule. The more progressive justices also could have voted to take the cases, but they likely shared the same concerns. Now, the jurisprudential lines are more clearly drawn, and the Court’s originalist bloc is ready to render decisive Second Amendment decisions.

    Elections have consequences.
     
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    Unfortunately, given the politicizing of the Supreme Court in recent decades and the rise of legislating from the bench, that is true. A far cry from what the FF intended I think.
     
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    its a City law, not a state law.

    get with the program.
     
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    Roberts is not solid on this issue in my opinion. Not after his performance in the Ocare cases was so out of character.
     
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    Its like you think have a point here, I know it.
     
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    As a New Yorker, what's your opinion on this law?
     
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    Depends. There's nothing wrong with reversing a sea of poor jurisprudence.
     
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    its insanely stupid and draconian
     
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    Yes, he’s an unknown. However, I think Heller and the other lower Court rulings in it’s wake have established enough precident that the NYC law will be viewed not all that differently than the DC laws that precipitated the Heller case... my prediction. However, it’s not over until it’s over.
    As an Aside, it it interesting the Constitutional carry band wagon is growing; potentially 24 -25 states by the end of the year. Will that have any bearing on SCOTUS I wonder?
     
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    A situation that has grown worse because of partisan decisions.
     
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    New york does take it too far sometimes
     
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    Yep... kill the dog to get rid of fleas.
     
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    But you cant argue with their results
     
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    I can
     
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    Some say the world is flat. Lol
     
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    Yeah, politicians in NYC.
     
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    Or trump
     
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    I just say let them have it, since in NYC they can literally put a police officer on every corner.

    I think they deserve at least one little enclave to experiment with whacky ideas among the like-minded.
     
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