Surely. What's this? [BHO Kenyan BC]

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  1. micfranklin

    micfranklin Banned

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    Trump more or less forced Obama into revealing it back in 2011 so the birther movement could shut up, and here you are 6 years later still bringing up old dirt that no one but butthurt old folks care about.

    I would think with all the supposed enlightened minds here it would occur to you all that with all the technology and tools at the government's disposal, this presumed BC from Kenya would've been found long ago and without a doubt proven real. But no, I guess some Twitter account is all the proof you need.
     
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    Nowhere in my post did I say the BC was real or fake, I just like the fact that it drives lefties up a wall, no more, no less.
     
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    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obviously liberals don't like detective work unless it comes to Trump. It's easier to be told what to think. Look at PPV, he's a gleaming example.
     
  4. micfranklin

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    I wonder if the fact that Obama Sr's full date of birth hasn't been included on that picture should raise an eyebrow.
     
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    I had a female classmate named Stanley.. Not unusual at all to keep a family surname. We do it routinely in my family. All that crap about "wanting a boy" ... oh well, here we are..
     
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    The whole thing from the start is just stoopid on stilts.
    Disregarding the authentic BC Obama showed in June 2008, and the one from the DOH in Hawaii,

    the idea some about-to-pop pregnant woman is going to fly some 13,000 miles around the world, alone, involving like 6 different connecting flights, to drop a baby in a third world country rife with disease (as I recall there was an epidemic in Kenya at that time,)

    and anyone traveling there had to get vaccines, so therefore subjecting her nearly born baby to the vaccines, come back immediately - flying again 13,0000 miles with six more connecting flights, newborn in tow, without anyone noticing, no passport for baby, and just settle back home - to care for the infant like nothing happened, is so wild

    -- that anyone who can entertain that thought for more than 4 minutes, and not recognize the inanity of it all, has to be, well, retarded.

    That some have clung to it for more than 8 years, is just more proof of the retardation.
     
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    It was debunked back in 2009. As I posted earlier.



    2009: FALSE: Obama's Kenyan Certified Registration of Birth

    “Kenyan birth certificate” of dubious origin was offered for sale by one Lucas Smith via eBay in August 2009:

    [​IMG]
    This document exhibited many of the same red flags as the previous forgery, including its identification of the location of Barack Obama Jr.’s birth as Mombasa, even though that city was very far away from the part of Kenya in which Barack Obama Sr.’s family lived:

    The image is part of the extremely ill-informed conspiracy theory that Obama was born in Mombasa — conveniently, one of the more Muslim parts of the country.

    This has always been a red flag for conspiracy theorists, so it deserves some explanation. Barack Obama Sr. was born and educated in Nyanza Province, in southwestern Kenya, on Lake Victoria. This is the area where Obama’s family lived and continues to live; Sarah Obama, the step-grandmother of the president, lives in Nyang’oma Kogelo, a small town in the province. But Mombasa is a city on the Indian Ocean, a thousand miles to the east. It didn’t even have an international airport until 1979.


    In September 2009, Orly Taitz attempted to introduce the second “Kenyan birth certificate” in the case of Rhodes v. MacDonald as evidence that Barack Obama was born outside the United States U.S. District Court Judge Clay Land dismissed the complaint and threatened to sanction Ms. Taitz if she filed any similarly frivolous motions in the future:

    Plaintiff has demonstrated no likelihood of success on the merits. Her claims are based on sheer conjecture and speculation. She alleges no factual basis for her “hunch” or “feeling” or subjective belief that the President was not born in the United States … Unlike in Alice in Wonderland, simply saying something is so does not make it so.

    Plaintiff’s counsel, who champions herself as a defender of liberty and freedom, seeks to use the power of the judiciary to compel a citizen, albeit the President of the United States, to “prove his innocence” to “charges” that are based [solely] upon conjecture and speculation. Any middle school civics student would readily recognize the irony of abandoning [the] fundamental principles upon which our country was founded in order to purportedly “protect and preserve” those very principles.

    Plaintiff’s counsel is hereby notified that the filing of any future actions in this Court, which are similarly frivolous, shall subject counsel to sanctions.

    A spoof web site, the Republic of Kenya Birth Certificate Generator, allows Internet users to create their very own fake Certified Registration of Birth documents from Kenya.
     
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    So he's not half black?
     
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    Yeah, how dare anyone believe such a thing. Tell us about his air travel so we can be convinced.
     
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    Looks like you've run out of debate.
     
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    Looks like our first black ( half black) president was also our first illegitimate president.


    :rolleyes:
     
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    Who knows. I've never seen a BC from a 3rd world country that was made over 50 years ago.
     
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    Poor deluded birthers.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Your missing my point, he's a fake first black president and his citizenship is as questionable as his ethnicity. At this point it's fun to debate but even if we found out he wasn't a citizen the point is moot. Three points you're out.
     
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    It was a four day trip from Mombasa to Hawaii in 1961 and women didn't fly those long trips after the first trimester or for 6 weeks after childbirth. Mombasa didn't have an international airport until the mid 1970s so you had to take a puddle jumper to Cairo. I made the trip many times from Dhahran to NY and it was a hard 3 days of flying.. and still 9 hours to Birmingham.

    Its a stupid claim..
     
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    Lol, sure. And I had a female classmate named Jonathan and a male classmate named Peggy.
     
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    Nor have I seen such obsession over a birth certificate ever, even well after it's been debunked, re-debunked and so on over and over. Moreso well after the current president has already left office.
     
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    Not to mention the exorbitant cost to travel there, all the layovers, it was literally halfway across the world from where she lived, and she's be traveling there right in the middle of peak yellow fever season, where all passengers had to have vaccination certificates - and they don't generally administer it to pregnant women or children under one,

    Also, to enter the United States in 1961 from a country with endemic smallpox, as Kenya did you had to have a vaccination certificate:

    "Airport health officials were rather more rigorous in asking all arriving passengers where they had been in the preceding 14 days and requiring a valid vaccination certificate from all those who had been in a smallpox-endemic country during this period"

    Some of these crazies actually believe a US woman, ready-to-drop a kid would fly to a third world, disease ridden country -- and it...man, the stupidity of it all.
     
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    Okay, I'm a conservative and I think Obama was one of the biggest mistakes this country ever made. However, I judge by evidence, and I am interested in your proof that this document is NOT authentic. As for me, I don't know one way or the other, but you seem convinced. Why?
     
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    You people are a joke. Trump should release his ****ing taxes.
     
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    #107
     
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    This is the same thing we saw all during Obama's presidency. Someone would post some chain email accusing Obama of doing something evil. The email would be proven false and the Righty's would slink away all dejected because they fell for something stupid. Two years later some righty would come back with the same email and post it as new news and the cycle would continue. Funny thing is the same people who did that are now crying about "fake news!" LOL
     
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    Oh, yeah, I seem to faintly remember that. Still, my wife is one of those people that has spent years into the wee hours transcribing written birth and census records from the last century to digital records and is heavy into genealogy. When Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate was posted online for an EXTREMELY short time, her immediate opinion was that it was not correct to the period. She would like some more time to study it if it could be found again.
     
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    I'm one who knows it has a possibility of being valid, and a possibility of being invalid. Unlike most on the left, who tend to be definite about the indefinite, and indefinite about the definite; whenever it is in their political interest to do so.
     

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