Sweden's Forgotten Saami Genocide

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  1. Torment

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    Between 1935-1975,for the purpose of creating an Aryan Swedish race,63.000 handicapped minority Saami women with epilepsy or social problems were sterilized.

    Sweden's native population called Saami were under heavy oppression and assimilation starting from 1950.Genocide continued until 1980,deportations,to prevent population increase Saami and Tatar women were sterilized,biological experiments were practiced on them and their language was banned.Their numbers dropped to 17.000 and their schools were closed.

    Sweden's name was in the list of genocidal countries of 20th century with Norway because of the violence against their minorities.

    The oppression policies of Sweden against Saami were proved and accepted.A heavy assimilation policy until 1990s by Sweden didnt allow Saami people to have peace.Their native language,beliefs were banned and they were forced to convert to Christianity.The new born babies were getting blessed again secretly at homes according shaman traditions after they get baptized by force at the churches.Especialy after 1920,to prevent population exchange,more than 60.000 Saami were sterilized.More than 90% of these were women.

    In the begining of 1900s,based on protecting the aryan race theory,a heavy isolation policy in Denmark,Sweden and Finland was practiced.The lands of Saami were taken away and they were not allowed to buy new property or land.They were forced to migrate.Until World War 2,the notion of "one nation" got stronger and because of heavy oppression and life conditions Saami population decreased to 10.000

    Saamis are an asiatic people.Speaking an Uralic-Altaic language.They migrated to scandinavia from Russia's Kola island and asia.They cant be defined as settlers,they are migrating people.Their main source of income was hunting deers and other animals.Starting from 17th century,Norway and Sweden started to assimilate Saamis by forcing them to convert to Christianity.Their social and cultural identity started to get destroyed.Their native language was banned and they were forced to learn swedish and norweigan at schools.All these policies were practiced by Swedish monarchy and Swedish goverments.All this assimilation policies and sufferings of Saami people were proven and accepted by a court decision in february 1996.

    Because of the racist and colonialist nature and mentality Saamis were also called Lapps/Lupons.Means patched dress.A complete humiliation.The region they live is called Sapmi,in colonialist language as "Lappland".A commission formed in 1983 suggested to Swedish goverment to give series of economic,ethnic and constitutional rights to Saamis in a report they finished in 1989.But none of these were accepted by Swedish goverment.Saami language is not the education language in Saami schools.There are none that can speak and teach Saami language in an academic level in Sweden today.

    Now after all this.Not hearing the name Saami makes sense doesnt it?

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    What is the source for all this? Why do you find it credible?
     
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    Respected Turkish journalist Banu Avar's documentary about the attrocities and forgotten genocide committed by Sweden against Sami people was censored by goverment television TRT (Turkish Radio and Television Institute) after the instant reaction of Swedish Foreign Relations Ministery via Sweden's Ankara Consolate to Banu Avar's documentary.The program was censored and Avar's career in TRT ended.Also Turkish social anthropologist and Turkolog Sefa M. Yürükel explains the systematic assimilation and massacres of Sami people by Sweden in his book.
     
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    Well posted .
    With a flag like that , plus the evidence of that photo -- which itself is a crime against humanity , I think I understand the Swedish thinking .
    Assuming the story is actually true


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    This is perfectly credible.

    The EU and its allies can always play the confidence game though, because whoever buys up the (state) media gets to program people's minds.

    This Sami incident is one of many that Europe perpetrated in the late 20th century.

    But the media is the key.

    For example, in 1945, in the same time as German nazis were being sentenced to death in Nurnberg for deporting 20 million Jews, Czechoslovakia deported 20 million German.

    So it is simply the media that defines what is a war crime and a genocide.

    Both Sweden and Norway know, as well as Lithuania, Slovakia, Romania, and many others know, that they loot lands that are not theirs. Their media trick is to call those lands "part of their country". But since they are obviously liars, they must make it true by agressively assimilating people using genocide.

    A systematic approach to save those victims would be for them to start buying up popular state media, like Murdock does it and various Jewish circles do it all the time.

    With enough counter-programming, the mind control called "nation state" can hopefully get discredited too. And then the map can be redrawn and normalized.
     
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    Thanks guys.Good to see some objective perspective from you.
     
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    Not exactly:

    Swedish ambassador slams Turkish documentary
     
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    That's what people like you think who cannot see much past the tip of their noses. For everyone else its as transparent as can be and simply portrays Turks as mud throwing kids far from the democratic path, who cannot face the truth.
     
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    Dont repeat the same western literature.talk about history if you know any otherwise stop denial and blaming.
     
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    I would not believe everything you might hear about "minority mistreatment" coming out of Sweden. The multicultural academics tend to have a biased view of history and reality. Yes, the Saami were traditionally often mistreated by the swedish kings, but it probably had more to do with their remote geographical location and outside culture. The situation of the Saami where really nothing like the situation of the blacks in America.

    Multiculturalists are fond of guilt tripping European/white people by making them believe altered versions of history. Swedes (and europeans in many other western countries) are repeatedly told in their schools and media how "evil" the nazis were, so that now it is almost taken for granted as a fact. Really the attrocities comitted by germans during the second war were not much different from any of the other sides. Mistreatment comitted by Japanese soldiers was much worse. The Americans also had concentration camps for japanese Americans. Some of the mistreatment in the Allied prisons was no different than what the Jews experienced in german prison camps. And the Russians certainly had cruel prison camps especially for certain ethnicities, with lower prisoner survival rates than the german concentration camps.

    I really do not think it is fair to call a little historical mistreatment of the Saami as "genocide".
     
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    Everyone knows white europeans are perfect and incapable of any tipe of mistake.

    Can you give some examples of russian camps for certain ethnicities?
     
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    The Ukrainian famine in which 14 million died as a result on intentional policy. More than twice as many Ukrainians and Georgians died as a result of the persection against specific nationalities and ethnicities than the number of jews that died around the time of the second world war.
    (not only that, but many of the jews who died may have actually died from the russian occupation rather than intentionally being killed by the nazis)

    http://www.artukraine.com/famineart/stvictims.htm
    http://www.infoukes.com/history/famine/serbyn/

    Stalin actually appointed Jews in administrative positions to carry out his dirty work, both because the jews had less affinity for the russian people, so tended to have less of a problem persecuting the targeted ethnic groups, and because the jews were not particularly liked by the russians so the reasoning was that the jews could deflect the blame away from Stalin (the Kremlin has had a long history of using the Jews or Chechen/Azerbaistani muslims to deflect away blame). So while jews in germany were suffering under german prison guards, jewish prison guards in russia were abusing other russian ethnic minorities on the same scale.
     
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    Stalin himself was georgian and you are saying he tried to exterminate georgians.
    And on the holodomor not 14 million people died, and yes people died but before communism people starved to death throught all of Russia and you cant blame on Stalin something that was normal.
     
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    Western literature? The issue is not history but transparent Turkish smear propaganda.
     
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    Unlike in Turkey Sweden gives extensive coverage to past crimes.
     
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    Only the Swedish are selective about what they call their crime.
    :mrgreen:
    Sweeden = :thumbsdown:
    Very "clever" nation.
    (Why are they separate from Denmark? The Danish don't want them?)
     
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    Yes, both of these facts are true. It is one of the great ironies of history (Perhaps Stalin really hated his father?). Hitler, for example, may have actually been part jewish and known about it.
     
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    I was always interested as a practising clinician in patients who resorted to the " And Pigs might fly" last haven for troubled souls , type of verbal offering .
    Others call it the " What If" response to mask troubling personal trauma .
    In that spirit ,I wonder if I sense ,
    "I was run over by a bright yellow tank when only five years old " syndrome
     

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