Swedish Feminist Want To Make Peeing Standing Up Illegal for men

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  1. ryobi

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    Male representatives on the Sormland County Council in Sweden should sit rather than stand while urinating in office restrooms, according to a motion advanced by the local Left Party.

    Known as a socialist and feminist organization, the party claims that seated urination is more hygienic for men -- the practice decreases the likelihood of puddles and other unwanted residue forming in the stall -- in addition to being better for a man's health by more effectively emptying one's bladder, The Local reported.

    But not everyone agrees.
    "Men scatter urine not so much during the actual urination as during the 'shaking off' that follows," John Gamel, a professor at the University of Louisville, wrote while addressing the issue in 2009. "As a result, forcing men to sit while emptying their bladders will serve little purpose, since no man wants to shake himself off while remaining seated on the toilet."

    A representative from the party said he hopes to move toward sitting only bathrooms.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1590572.html
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Now this is the problem when you don't actually find out the full facts of what you are quoting;

    The Left Party's Viggo Hansen, a substitute member of the county council and the man responsible for the proposal, wants the office toilets to be genderless and as a result, is pushing for the "sit-down only" requirement.

    He insisted, however, that the move doesn't represent political meddling in people's bathroom habits.

    "That's not what we're doing. We want to give men the option of going into a clean toilet," he told Sveriges Television (SVT).
    - http://www.thelocal.se/20120611/41358

    so the idea was brought forward by a man and has two pretty good reasons for being proposed -

    "One reason has to do with hygiene and a desire to ensure that no one who uses the toilets at the county council's offices will be required to walk through puddles or residue left by stray urine which happens to splash out of the bowl and onto the floor when male employees pee standing up. "

    "The Left Party also cites medical research it claims shows that men empty their bladders more efficiently when they are seated. "

    To equate this to "Feminism" is stretching creditability a little far.
     
  3. ryobi

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    Saying, "equating this to "Feminism" is stretching credibility a little far" puts your credibility in question. The article clearly states:

    Known as a socialist and feminist organization, the party claims that seated urination is more hygienic for men -- the practice decreases the likelihood of puddles and other unwanted residue forming in the stall -- in addition to being better for a man's health by more effectively emptying one's bladder, The Local reported.

    Maybe you should read it again and make note of the part of the article that states, "known as a socialist and feminist organization" before you make a statement implying this has nothing to do with feminism.

    ...and just because a man made the proposal doesn't mean he isn't a feminist. Feminists aren't always women for instance you're not a woman-right

    :roll:
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    not really unless you have something to show that the party is in fact "Known as a socialist and feminist organization" or do you take everything you read as a fact?

    Maybe you should actually look a little deeper than what the article tells you . .you know actually find out if there is any fact behind what is being said, as you didn't one can only assume two things;

    1. You have no interest if there is any validity to the report, its just another way to attack something you don't like
    2. You are too lazy to find out if there is any validity in the report and feel that just repeating it is good enough.

    Never said it did, and what makes you assume I am a feminist, I'm more interested in people actually doing the research than copying and pasting anything they think fits their agenda.
     
  5. ryobi

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    If I found twenty articles about this story you could say the exact same thing. If I then found twenty more you could say it again ec cetera. The article I posted clearly states that it is a feminist organization.

    :roll:
     
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    Is hygiene a feminist conspiracy ryobi?
     
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    I love it. If y'all can't aim, sit.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    An article is not proof of accusation, find me the actual manifest of this Left wing party where it shows they are a 'feminist' organization either by stating it or by implication of their policies.

    I could probably find you a few hundred articles that state the GOP are a bunch of right-wing, zenophobic, homophobic, anti-women and religious nuts .. does that mean it is true, by your reasoning it would.

    It would seem that unlike some, I don't tend to rely on articles that could very well have biased opinions
     
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    I'd be happy if everyone would at least flush when they're done!...what's up with that, why do some people have issues with flushing public toilets?...

    and my wife tells me the women toilets are disgusting where she works, pee is sprayed every where because a number of women pee while standing so their butts don't contact the seats...
     
  10. ryobi

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    It's not about, 'hygiene' Urine is sterile. Feces are not. Sitting on a toilet seat multitudes of other strangers have sat on exposes a person to other peoples feces. Sitting on a toilet seat to pee is actually more unhygienic than standing.

    This isn't about hygiene. This is about emasculation.

    This isn't the first time feminists have made males pee sitting down. I remember a story years ago of a feminist mother forcing her male children to pee sitting down to emasculate them.

    But if you have no problem being told how to use the bathroom, like it's some femdom fantasy you have, go for it, but don't expect others to share your desires.

    :wink:
     
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    Urine is sterile when first leaving the bladder .. however in it's journey to the outside world it becomes contaminated by bacteria normally present in the lower urethra and external genitalia, there is also the problem of bacteria being carried in the urine from infections of the bladder, urethra and/or kidneys.

    If a toilet is flushed and kept in a clean state there is little chance of being 'exposed' to another persons feces.

    There is less chance of mis-aiming when sat down.

    Your opinion not withstanding, it is not just about hygiene it is also about it possibly being healthier .. The fact that you jump to the conclusion of it being about emasculation says more about your agenda than the item in question.

    Nobody is 'making' them do anything, it is merely a proposal being put forward, should the council members vote against it then it won't happen.

    Care to link to this story please.

    As already stated and shown in the article no one is telling men how to use the bathroom, it is merely a proposal backed by two reasons.

    I find it funny that so many read something into this article that may not even be there .. it says more about them than it does about the people proposing it.
     
  12. ryobi

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    Gender neutral bathrooms are a perverts dreams come true.

    :eekeyes:
     
  13. ryobi

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    Great...and if you never sit down, you never have to come in contact with neither pee or feces. If you sit on the seat you come into contact with both

    .[/QUOTE]Your opinion not withstanding, it is not just about hygiene it is also about it possibly being healthier .. The fact that you jump to the conclusion of it being about emasculation says more about your agenda than the item in question..[/QUOTE]

    Swedish feminists are notorious for caring about the health of men :roll:



    .[/QUOTE]Nobody is 'making' them do anything, it is merely a proposal being put forward, should the council members vote against it then it won't happen..[/QUOTE]

    That's if they vote against it :roll:



    .[/QUOTE]Care to link to this story please..[/QUOTE]

    I heard it on the radio years ago



    .[/QUOTE]As already stated and shown in the article no one is telling men how to use the bathroom, it is merely a proposal backed by two reasons.

    I find it funny that so many read something into this article that may not even be there .. it says more about them than it does about the people proposing it.[/QUOTE]

    ...and not having a problem with this proposal says a lot about you :wink:
     
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    Not if the toilet is cleaned at regular intervals, and certainly no more than when splashes occur from standing up.


    I wouldn't know about that

    That's the thing about a democracy, sometimes you have to accept the things you don't like .. otherwise it isn't a democracy any more.

    So nothing then

    Care to quote where I say I don't have a problem with it?

    Thing is I can see this as more than an attack on your manhood, and to be honest if this sort of thing gets to you like it obviously has then you must not be confident in your own manhood.

    The fact that you dived in straight away with the feminist angle without even bothering to research the reasoning made does nothing but highlight your preconceived ideas. Had you actually researched the points you would have found that it does have merits and would be worthy of a debate, that is not to say I agree with the proposal .. I just disagree with your assumptions more.
     
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    Once again, the article in the OP clearly states this is a proposal from a feminist organization :roll:.

    Here's a link to their site: http://www.vansterpartiet.se/?option=com_content&view=article&id=1062&Itemid=847
     
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    urine is sterile.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    and once again do you believe everything you read in an article :roll:

    I can't read Swedish, can you?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Only when it is in the bladder (unless there is an infection in the bladder).
     
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    And who brought this topic up here?

    - - - Updated - - -

    is it true than men have a hard time completely emptying their bladder while sitting down?
     
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    It's all starting to make sense. You know way to much about urination and defecation not to have some kind of attraction to both. I understand now why you don't have a problem with genderless bathrooms. :roflol:
     
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    For example, if you get a jellyfish sting, you pee on it. You don't (*)(*)(*)(*) on it. :roll:

    In the past there were tribes that would put feces on their arrows to cause infections in their enemies.

    Exposing yourself to feces is not benign :roll:

    :smile:
     
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    :disbelief:
    It's called doing the research, you should try it sometime it might stop you making an arse of yourself in future posts.
     
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    You would know all about, 'arse'

    'arse' being your area of expertise apparently :smile:
     
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    when writing your name in the snow is outlawed, only outlaws will write their name in the snow. :angered:


    anywho, didn't we cover this 2 years ago?:confuse:
     
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    my Mother called us pointers but she also said we can't aim :)
     
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    I would hazard to guess that many women who are not feminists would like men to sit down to take a leak too.
     

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