SYRIA VOWS TO ATTACK ISRAEL UNLESS IT WITHDRAWS FROM THE GOLAN HEIGHTS

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    hey who cares about material wealth, you cant take it with you when you die!
     
  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    hey what about being the benefactor to the human race? That you can take with you when you die, right?
     
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    I have an asbestos bag.
     
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    Make sure its insulated and take ice cubes not money
     
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    good call.
     
  6. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course Israel hasn't withdrawn.
    It doesn't have to now that Americans are stationed in Israel to let Israel attack its neighbors with impunity.
    One of the reasons that the Syrians haven't fired back is the possibility of a confrontation with American Forces defending Israel with their lives.(1)
    So, now, American troops are currently serving as Netanyahu's pro bono human shields- mercenaries while America's own borders remain unprotected.
    Who says that America's countless Israeli lobbies in DC don't shape US Mid East Policy.

    Trump even openly admitted that the US is only occupying the Mid East "...for Israel."

    What happened to "America First"?

    "TRUMP: U.S. TROOPS WILL REMAIN IN THE MIDDLE EAST FOR ISRAEL"
    https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Trump-US-troops-will-remain-in-the-Middle-East-for-Israel-572997


    (1) "US Commander: ‘US Troops Prepared to Die for Israel’ in War against Syria, Hezbollah"
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/israe...a-harbinger-of-war-on-syria-hezbollah/238768/


    EXCERPT "In other words, the IDF will decide whether or not U.S. troops become embroiled in the regional war for which Israel is preparing, not the United States.
     
  7. Dutch

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    US has deployments of

    60,000 troops in Japan,
    26,000 in South Korea,
    35,000 in Germany,
    13,000 in Italy,
    9,000 in UK,
    3,500 in Spain, and so on,

    all on a permanent basis.

    I wonder if you know how many US troops are in Israel and if they're there on a permanent basis?

    Time for America to invest another $ trillion into Israel, in 2019? :mrgreen:
     
  8. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Syria hasn't "fired back"? Did Israel attack Syria today?

    Yes, the U.S. will defend our ally if they're attacked. That's how the geopolitical world works.
     
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    Syria isn't doing anything. They can't even keep their own country together.
     
  10. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, Israel hasn't initiated another unprovoked attack on Syria today but it has initiated several unprovoked attacks on Syria in the very recent past.

    Why in the world would any loyal American want to sacrifice the lives of young American G.I.s for Israel's regional hegemony is beyond me.
    Are you willing to die for Israel & if not, why would you want to sacrifice the lives of other Americans for a thankless & treacherous parasite.

    Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”(*)

    Israel is no "ally" of the US and has a long history of stealing US secrets(1) & selling them to the highest bidder which, most recently, has been China(2)


    (*)http://web.archive.org/web/20060512...pecial_Reports/092105Madsen/092105madsen.html

    (1)"How Israel Has Betrayed America"
    https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/06/06/how-israel-has-betrayed-america/
    EXCERPT "A recent report by Newsweek magazine that Israel has spied on the United States at “an alarming level” and has done so “more than any other ally does” raises a very serious issue concerning how much Israel has betrayed America, which is something that the American mainstream media have time and again refused to debate in public. For clarification, the word “betrayed” here means something “damaging” to American national interests." CONTINUED


    (2) "Report: Israel Passes U.S. Military Technology to China"
    https://www.military.com/defensetec...srael-passes-u-s-military-technology-to-china

    EXCERPT "Israel has a long record of getting U.S. military technology to China."CONTINUED


     
  11. Grau

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    According to a US Military General who recently returned from Israel, there are just under 5,000 American G.I.s throughout multiple locations in Israel.
    The difference between US in other countries & US Troops in Israel is that US Troops are to be put under Israeli command in the event of hostilities which Israel can chose to initiate at any time.

    In other words, the Israeli government can suck the US into a major confrontation at any time & know that the entire US Military will back them up.
    Any loyal American feels like the US should decide when it goes to war, not a gaggle of ultra right wing Zionist aggressors, ethnic cleansing land thieves.

    There is no other country in the world in which US forces are ever put under foreign command and you can guess whose troops Israeli commanders would sacrifice first.
     
  12. Dutch

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    What are the conditions under which US troops in South Korea will engage North Koreans?
    What are the conditions under which US troops in Europe will engage an enemy?

    How again are these conditions different from our troops potential engagement in Israel?

    This conversation is indeed getting interested :)
     
  13. Grau

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    The difference as I understand it is that American troops would take orders from foreign (Israeli) officers.
    On the other hand, in S. Korea & Europe, American troops only take orders from American officers.

    While we obviously differ on the degree to which the US should aid & abet Israeli ethnic cleansing, war crimes & aggression, I do my best not to bore you my friend.
     
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    Israel doesn’t initiate attacks. It only responds to attacks.
     
  15. Grau

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    Are you kidding?
    Israel's very establishment was based on a series of genocidal attacks on long established Palestinian towns, villages, farms etc known as the Nakba.

    Long ago, Israel's ethnic cleansing M.O. has been "Provoke-then-Massacre". By which Israel initiates a provocation so that it can respond with its superior military and kill Palestinians at about a 10 - 1 ratio:

    "Moshe Dayan, in his diaries said: "Our strategy was always to provoke the Arabs and get an appropriate response so we could attack and smash them."

    http://www.sott.net/signs/signs154.htm

    Even Begin admitted that Israel started 3 of its wars:

    Begin's Admission in 1982 That Israel Started Three of Its Wars”
    http://www.washingtonreport.me/1994-july-august/middle-east-history-begin-s-admission-in-1982-that-israel-started-three-of-its-wars.html

    Additionally:

    "Israel Always Initiates Violence in Occupied Palestine"
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-always-initiates-violence-in-occupied-palestine/5659849


    "Israel provoked the Six-Day War in 1967, and it was not fighting for survival"
    https://mondoweiss.net/2017/06/provoked-fighting-survival/

    EXCERPT "Finkelstein emphasizes that no genuine academic today, whatever their political orientation, endorses the Mainstream Narrative. He starts by identifying what he has called the “Two Biggest Lies.”

    * The truth is that Nasser and the other Arab leaders had absolutely no intention of invading Israel in June 1967.

    * And Israel’s existence was never in the slightest doubt, as both Israeli and American leaders knew that Israel could easily win any conflict, even against a coalition of Arab states."CONTINUED


     
  16. Esau

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    sure
     
  17. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you. So this is nothing more but your opinion (understanding)?
     
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    Syria is thug nation with no right to exist. If necessary, nuke it.
     
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    I'm afraid it's not just my opinion.

    American G.I.s in Europe, Japan, S. Korea go to war when the US decides.

    American G.I.s in Israel go to war when Israel's war hungry(1), (2) government decides.

    The parents, wives and children of those Americans sent to die for Israel don't decide nor does America's AIPAC owned & operated US Congress.

    As Gen. Clark says: "...Haimovitch (i.e. Israel) would “probably” have the last word ..." when it comes to sacrificing American lives for Israel's regional hegemony.

    EXCERPT "Beyond the fact that Israel is preparing to go to war with several countries simultaneously is the fact that U.S. ground troops are now “prepared to die for the Jewish state,” according to U.S. Third Air Force Commander Lt. Gen. Richard Clark.

    However, more troubling than the fact that U.S. troops stand ready to die at Israel’s behest was Clark’s assertion that Haimovitch would “probably” have the last word as to whether U.S. forces would join the IDF during war time. In other words, the IDF will decide whether or not U.S. troops become embroiled in the regional war for which Israel is preparing, not the United States."CONTINUED(3).



    (1) "Netanyahu’s ‘War’ Comment Wasn’t an Accident"
    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...etanyahu-s-iran-war-threat-wasn-t-an-accident

    EXCERPT "The gathering of more 60 nations -- including Arab countries -- is, he said, an important step in pursuing their “common interest in advancing war with Iran."


    (2) "Netanyahu & the Lobby Cowboy Up For War With Iran"
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/netanyahu-the-lobby-cowbo_b_3611038.html

    EXCERPT "But Netanyahu’s fear-mongering has made a difference. The Israel lobby here has made confronting Iran the centerpiece of its activities on Capitol Hill, successfully drafting and easily convincing both Democrats and Republicans to enact sanctions that punish the Iranian people along with resolutions making clear that the U.S. will go to war if Iran doesn’t give up its nuclear program."CONTINUED



    (3) "US Commander: ‘US Troops Prepared to Die for Israel’ in War against Syria, Hezbollah"
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/israe...a-harbinger-of-war-on-syria-hezbollah/238768/


     
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    So, if Syria takes Golan back from Israel? You expect NATO to rise up? Or will it just be treated as
    a legal international step of taking war spoils, you know, since those who lose pay for it?
     
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    Syria isn't going to take anything from Israel.
     
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    No link to the US policy or US official clearly voicing US policy? The opinionated indeed is or believe, to which you’re entitled to.
     
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    if there was a Boxing Match

    between World Leaders

    then Asshat would get his azz whooped by EVERYONE, apart from Rwandas leader.
     
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  24. Grau

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    US Mid East Policy is what AIPAC & the innumerable other right wing Israeli lobbies says it is.

    AIPAC was "quietly successful" in driving America into the last war:

    "Quietly lobbying Congress to approve the use of force in Iraq was one of AIPAC's successes over the past year."
    AIPAC executive director Howard Kohr
    New York Sun in January 2003

    And in a New Yorker profile of Steven Rosen, AIPAC's policy director during the run-up to the war on Iraqi, it was stated that "AIPAC lobbied Congress in favor of the Iraqi war".

    Why wouldn't AIPAC etc be equally successful in "quietly" driving America into another war?
     
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    Dunno why I even doubted myself - no links to US policy or to any US officials ? Of course not.
     

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