Syrian air defense shot down an Israeli military aircraft. Video.

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  1. Mandelus

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    Wrong...

    Nearly all Russian media are under control of government at least, because if you start to dig about who the owner of the media company behind is, then you end mostly in the surrounding of the government members!
     
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    I think the Arabs have a good reason to fear us since we (Israelis) ****ed them pretty hard in our history so when we read Arab sorts of posts (like yours) we all understand, no hard feelings, in fact its a good progress that they can express themselves in writing at all, whinny and delusional but semi intelligent at least.
    Now...Russian posters like you that write crap like that, you should know better, you have a decent culture, decent education, no reason to think like Arabs...., it doesn't become a citizen of mighty(?) Russia to be whinny and fearful of tiny Israel.
     
  3. Destroyer of illusions

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    So write the Western media? :roflol::roflol::roflol: True? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
    However, the Western media also write about the fact that Putin personally ordered Skripals to be poisoned.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    Kissinger said that Israel would soon cease to exist. Just the United States will cease to maintain Israel and all. The Arabs will arrange the Arab Bartholomew night. How did King Solomon write? "Everything was, everything will be"? Is not it?
    http://www.israelhayom.com/2012/09/27/kissinger-said-israel-wont-exist-in-10-years/
    How many times other nations have Jews expelled ? So this is not the first time. Although, on the other hand, ... if you read what the Talmud writes about Jews and other nations, then you begin to understand the reasons.
     
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    Shhh......, trust your leader he knows whats best for you, you don't need to worry about the Talmud just keep your jets away from our Arabs and everything should be cool.
     
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    But aren't you the same Arabs? You, like them, are Semites. Is not it? In other words, you are with Arabs like Cain and Abel. You have common roots. So or not?
     
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    Jews that came from Arab countries I guess, but shouldn't you like us if we are Arabs ? or do we need to be stupid as well for that.... ?
     
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    What does Russian propaganda has to say on yesterday shooting ? did the Zionist missiles managed to rape a few Arabs before landing ?
     
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    The Ten commandments ? I consult with it from time to time....
    Bible lesson from a Jew hater :) I think the Egyptian was a terrorist so Moses got some slack for that but I also think he was punished for it, Israelis are mostly not religious so these kind of debates end around we are 10 y old.....
    The Jewish calendar is just for tradition purposes we don't really use other than marking Bible holidays and that too is just for tradition, it sets us apart from other nations, not better or worse just a distinct tradition as others have I guess, the Inca had their own too, what exactly is your problem with it ?
     
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    Almost nothing is written. There are references to SANA in some media.
    They write that the strike aircraft of Israel penetrated the airspace of neighboring Lebanon and, being there, fired missiles.
    The Syrian air defense forces were able to destroy most of them, but not all. As a result, “limited damage was caused to the ammunition depot” and three soldiers were injured.
    They also write that according to some sources, shortly before the attack, another Iranian Boeing-747 flew into Damascus airport. It is assumed that he delivered some cargo, allegedly for military purposes, which was transported to the warehouse. There, according to unofficial information, small arms are usually kept. This warehouse and tried to destroy the Israelis.
    Some media shows this video.



    But in general, this topic is not very interested. Just like the Israelis are not very interested in tribal clashes in central Africa. For example, I looked at this information only after your question.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Oh, you could have fooled me with your "not very interested" aspects on Jews - but I can't argue with that logic as I agree a Russian should'nt give a damn about this area.
     
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    For some strange, your supposedly "logic", you decided that I was a hater of Jews. I don't know why you decided that. I am a supporter of communist ideas and therefore an internationalist. I have no hatred for Jews, or for Arabs, or for Americans or Papuans. But I have a class approach.
    There is a class enemy — these are bloodsuckers-exploiters and bloodsuckers-usurers. And they have no nationality.

    And I wonder, the information that I showed is a lie from your point of view?
     
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    Well I agree with you on the blood sucking leeches elites, some are Jewish, I disagree it got something to do with the Jewish nation as if I as a Jew get something out of it......these kind of ppl treat all of us as pawns.
     
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    All nations have bloodsuckers-exploiters and bloodsuckers-usurers. And Russians, Americans, British or Germans have no less of them than Jews. All nationalistic ideas, such as fascism, Zionism, Nazism ... and the like, are just distracting from the communist ideas of justice.
    Note. For example, after the Great October Revolution in Russia, almost immediately began to be promoted and financed the ideas of fascism in Italy and Nazism in Germany . Obviously this was done with the aim of distracting the masses of workers from the ideas of communism. Germany and Italy were chosen because the Communists were the most active there at that time. They were suppressed and destroyed, in their place were put ideas of racial superiority. And of course the enemy was found - the Jews and the Bolsheviks.
    Hitler and Mussolini preached - "we are an exceptional nation." The same thing is being said in the USA. Remember Obama.

    Forgot to add. There is also religious fanaticism. For example, ISIS, Al Qaeda, Japanese Aum Senrike and similar organizations. And hordes of idiots who follow these scammers and villains. These religious fanatics are the same fascists, only from religion
     
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    OK, first of all I respect your ideals coming from social concern, I'm afraid I'm too sarcastic to be an idealist myself but all the Americans here will tell you Communism failed in every country that had it, so let's jump to what is your idea of communism that would work ?
    My short exp with communism was during my army service, part of it was living in a kibbutz (small communist agricultural village) for 6 months and having sex with volunteer girls, it was nice, however - I remember the ppl there were not very happy, everything put to a vote nothing really changes and takes forever - that's why I suspect all the communist countries had to had a dictator or NOTHING would have worked, and a dictator my friend is a very problematic aspect when thinking on an ideal society.
     
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    The first. Communism is not lost. Look at China for example. Although China is building Maoist communism. But it is also communism. If you do not know how Maoism differs from other branches of Marxism, I will show you the main difference. Maoism recognizes private property and the class of conditionally exploiters, that is, persons owning the means of production.
    But with the obligatory dictatorship of the proletariat. And they really do it. For example, most recently in China, the richest man in China was shot for corruption (I forgot his last name). Also, the richest woman in China was shot a little earlier (also for tax evasion and corruption). In other words, in China there is a real dictatorship of the proletariat. And socialist China is now the first economy of the world in PPP and the second economy of the world in absolute terms. There is still socialist Vietnam, which is making amazing economic successes. There are other countries with a socialist economy.
    By the way, the last socialist revolution took place in 2008. In Nepal.
    Of course, you can say that the USSR failed. To which I can answer you with historical facts.
    According to historical studies, the transition from the slave to the feudal system took about 700 years. The transition from feudalism to socialism took about 300 years. (only the Dutch civil war lasted 86 years). During this period there were victories and defeats of the new system. Lesions were called reaction. For example, in the middle of the 15th century, a bourgeois revolution took place in the territory of Germany. That is, the change of the feudal system to the capitalist. It lasted about a year. Then the feudal lords regained their power. They literally cut out all the bourgeois and their sympathizers. (morals at the time were easier). But in the end, as we now know, capitalism won in Germany and in other countries. So it is now. In Russia at the moment there is a reaction. But if you read Lenin's work “Imperialism as the Highest Stage of Capitalism,” you will understand that the transition to socialism first, and then communism is inevitable. It is necessary for the survival of humanity. I am writing this not because I am a fan of communism (although I really think communism is the best socio-economic system), but because capitalism has outlived its own. Capitalism has been transformed into its opposite - imperialism.

    I do not know what the economic basis in Kibbutzu. Therefore, I can not say anything about it. If this is similar to the peasant communities of the Old Believers in Russia during the time of the kings, where everything in common and the peasants jointly resolve any issue, then I assure you this is not socialism and certainly not communism.
     
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    Has anyone found that Israeli Plane yet? maybe the Iranians have taken it to drop in the Straits of Hormuz as part of their blockade.
     

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