Syrian girls being subjected to FGM in Egypt

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Donor

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    WTF does that mean?
     
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    yasureoktoo Well-Known Member

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    It means in the mind of some it can be sick.
     
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    It is a savage and barbaric practice.
     
  4. DennisTate

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    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That is scary!!!!!
     
  5. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Donor

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    Disturbing:

    It comes down to private parts of a woman, cut out and kept as trophies.

    A Danish man appeared in a South African court yesterday for storing 21 pieces of female genitalia in plastic bags in his freezer.

    He was charged with sexual assault, intimidation and breaking South Africa’s medical laws, said Warrant Officer Lynda Steyn. He did not enter a plea. Police said the man will remain in custody until his next court appearance on 28 September.

    Crowds jeered the man — with some shouting “Satan!” — as police escorted him from the courtroom. The man was identified in court as being 63 although police said earlier that he was 58.

    The man’s wife alerted authorities about the gruesome storage of body parts and police are investigating the extent of her involvement, said the investigating officer. Earlier, police said one of the man’s victims reported him to police.

    “It comes down to mutilation of private parts of a woman, cut out and kept as trophies,” said Warrant Officer Lynda Steyn.

    “He’s been doing it for a long time because one the genitals were marked with a lady’s name, the place Lesotho written on it, as well as the year 2010,” she said.
    It is not known if the body parts are from 21 different women. It is also not known how the man committed the assaults or if the victims are dead or alive. Police have asked women assaulted by the man to come forward.

    A Danish newspaper is reporting that police are investigating whether the man had been involved in the circumcision or genital mutilation of the victims. Some of whom are believed to be seven or eight years old.

    The man was arrested on Thursday in Bloemfontein, in the central Free State province. Police said they also discovered anesthetic and surgical implements in his home, including pliers.

    The Danish citizen owns a gun shop in Bloemfontein, reported Volksblad, a local Afrikaans language newspaper.

    The Associated Press has not named the man because under South African law he should not be identified until he enters a plea.
    https://www.thejournal.ie/south-africa-female-genital-mutilation-2345102-Sep2015/
     
  6. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is Africa - they're different to us in much the same way as those in the middle eastern regions are.
     
  7. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it's slighty connected to Islam.
    Muslim faith, either sunni or shia base themselves both on the quran (supposed to be the word of god) and the hadith (which are testimonies of words and acts of Muhammed gathered after his death). The quran doesn't says anything about FGM.
    However, as far as I remember, there is two important hadith about FGM :
    _ One mentionning when the circumcised genitals of the man meet the circumcised genitals of the woman.
    _ Another where their prophet says to not circumcise too much woman, but muslims have doubts about the authencity of this hadith.

    There is 4 big theological schools in sunni islam, and one consider that it's an obligation to "circumcise" (mutilate) the women.

    Pretending that FGM has nothing to do with islam is a big fat lie, pretending that it's systematical in Islam is a big fat lie, or ignorance.

    About religion, it depend how do you consider religion, I think that people can learn of how ML King considered religion.
     
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    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whoever wrote those in confused a whole pile of folks, then. Don't see how anyone could believe god would want a woman to be harmed. Women are as much a child of god as men.
     
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    None of us do because they're different to us. The sad fact is there is no will by the West to do anything about it, especially the ruling classes, so we might as well forget it. Speaking for myself I'd rather forget it than keep being reminded that future generations of boy and girl babies and toddlers will suffer great physical pain in the name of mindless custom, and in the case of the Jewish lads, mindless religious ritual.
     
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    Only through international agencies, can these atrocities be protested, or rather discussed. Protesting seems to draw negative attention, many times. No country has the right to tell anyone what to do, though in the case of women, it's not just skin removal. I don't equate the two. I can't.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Donor

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    The one doesn't justify the other??
     
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    thats not really news...
     
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    Men's pleasure comes first and the ability to breed babies, a foid doesn't need privates intact for that. And well who cares they are under the authority of the father so if a girl to be married as in finding the most partners needs a cut up crotch then they cut it up. Seems fine to me. You have no right to question other cultures under moral relativist models ,right, since the way to correct this would be to force our Western values on them which would be presumptuous.
     
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    ^ I'm really hoping the above post is sarcasm
     
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    I understand your point, but it's twisted. What god would want to harm one of his children? If it's only a custom, it's a very painful and harmful one. What woman would want to have sex, if she feels no pleasure? It ends up being rape, each time you have sex with her. She becomes a sort of sex robot to be used for the pleasure of a man. It's not a matter of western customs. It's a matter of human suffering.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Donor

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    And that's a problem in the muslim world how??
     
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    Rape is a problem in all the world. Anyone who commits rape is committing a crime of the state, religious beliefs not withstanding. I could believe and worship a rock, and it doesn't matter. It would be my religion, but I cannot rape in the name of a rock and not be brought to justice. Those women have human rights, just as any other human being. Any god that encourages mutilation and rape is more likely to be a creation of the one true god. You don't have to believe any of that. Rape is a crime. Mutilation certainly should be. It's sick and evil, in my opinion.
     
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    In my view, a girl who has been genitally mutilated has been violated in a way that's worse than rape.
     

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