Tackle white supremacy as terrorism, experts say

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  1. Empress

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    Mmmn no the whole of mass media is this way. That you think it's just "Fox News" speaks to your own political biases, such as the ones that flow through the rest of this post. I find it very common that people have difficulty in spotting media bias that matches their own, and you're clearly no exception.

    Can you define what a "white supremacist" is?
     
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    I'm not sure what your hangup is on the KJV, but no, in its context, the Bible is completely different than the Quran. They're night and day. I would suggest that anyone that thinks they're comparable has studied neither and is conflating the deeds of claimed or assumed Christians with Biblical theology.
     
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    Seriously, you’re going to correct my spelling and then use a sentence that includes a misspelling of “off” ? You have to be kidding me.
     
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    You don’t have to spend a lot of time studying either to conclude both are fiction. One has a kinder, more gentle message, but only after the first version was abandon by Christians. They’re both still fiction.
     
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    Read my post again below. I think that you misread it.
     
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    I'm not talking about bias. Bias exists and is unavoidable in all corporate media. But, even if it matches your own, it's easy to spot and deal with if you are even below moderately apt at what I mentioned above: critical thinking. I'm talking about all-out propaganda. Especially in the form of misinformation that is repeated over and over even after it has been debunked. We see the victims of this in this forum every day. Things like quoting Trump, as if anything of consequence resembling facts ever came out of that guy. If you get caught in the Fox-talk radio-wingnut media echo chamber, a more discerning evaluation of what they hear is required or they can easily fall in a "cult" mentality.. Political "cult mentality" today is just about absent in any group other than among Trump followers, as has been shown many times on this forum by myself and others.

    A complicated matter. But a quick schematic definition I guess would be anybody who believes that certain incidental characteristics entitle them to to some sort of advantage or privilege for the sole reason that they are the "majority" or "dominant" group. The most common characteristics that they feel entitle them to these advantages are being "white", their nationality or their religion. But they can also include sex, sexual preference or even sometimes age.
     
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    White Supremesists may be bigots and disgusting but, they are not terrorists. They are American citizens with Anti-American views but unless one of them commits an act of terror they are free to be what they are.

    Just avoid them.
     
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    I disagree. Allowing white supremacists to just "be" has led to terrible consequences throughout history. They are a real problem that must be addressed promptly when it starts to become wide-spread. As it has in the last three years. It is a product of ignorance that can very quickly escalate to terrorism if left unchecked. As it already has. And even though the incidents have been isolated, they do show a tendency to escalate every time we allow them to.

    White supremacists are too easy manipulable by other white supremacists. They can start innocently enough with Sean Hannity or Tucker Carlson protesting because some black guy got into Harvard instead of a White friend of theirs, then it escalates as the radio shock-jocks take on the "theme", then the social media or forums escalates it as some made-up black privilege, and it just keeps going and going until one of these ignorant clowns snaps!

    No.... we must not wait until one of them commits an act of terror. We start at the roots. By showing people how wingnut media lies are such a huge part of the recent rise of racism and bigotry in this country. And very much tolerated and, in many instances, very much made worse by this President.
     
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    I'm still trying to figure out where all these "white supremist" are.. if you are not talking about the low IQ types in prison gangs
     
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    Trump supporters.....
     
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    People don't tend to be violent of form groups because they hate Broccoli.
     
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    Trump minions all have a common characteristic.
     
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    I'm sorry you weren't able to extract the meaning. There were no typos.

    White Supremacists = Progressives, and liberals = what Leftists used to be.
     
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    Laughable. You’re totally confusing the Democrat party with liberalism. Dixiecrats were never liberal . They are now republicans. It doesn’t matter what named party represented liberalism in the past. It matters now.

    It’s the majority Democrat candidates that in debate, voted to support universal healthcare to include illegal immigrants. Geezes, we give healthcare to convicted felons in prison. Everyone gets healthcare. It’s a right.

    Republicans never supported universal healthcare for anyone regardless of their status.
     
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    Still no idea what you mean. If it has some sort of "symbolic" or "hidden" meaning, you would need to explain. In a literal sense it is, of course, quite wrong.
     
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    No, it's literal, and it's correct.

    Today's white supremacists are badly cloaked as Progressives (those Compassionate folk who like to think for brown people ... makes 'em feel better about their own discomfort with same. and you know .... it's almost like real helping!).

    And Leftists used to be liberals. Now they're arch conservatives, bless 'em!
     
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    Read my post again below. I think that you misread it.
     
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    No idea who you're talking about. Progressives are simply those who hold a socio-economic ideology contrary to that of conservatives. It has nothing to do with what "brown people" think. And definitely nothing with white supremacists.

    Looks like you have all the people in your world neatly and uniformly categorized. Probably makes "thinking" much easier than it is for those of us who don't tend to think in terms of hasty generalizations.
     
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    No, Progressives are white supremacists. Obsessed with race, because in the 21stC all the walls are down. Therefore the only way to keep brown people down (and outside the castle walls) is to perpetuate the myth of helplessness. At the same time, it signals (to other white supremacists, and those POC who've bought the white man's vanity) 'virtue'.

    I don't categorise ALL Leftists as arch conservatives (eg, I'm a Lefty, but remain liberal), but Progressives certainly are, and they're increasingly the norm.
     
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    The above has absolutely no content. You write a lot of words and say absolutely nothing.

    You did before. But it's good that you retracted.

    I'm not an ideologue, though. So I'm not interested in arch-... anythings.
     
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    Do you have access to a dictionary ?
     
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    Good to hear. A far larger percentage of the Left has fallen into ideology than could have ever been predicted. And once you go there, you are a conservative. Ideology does not tolerate diversity of solutions or progress of ideas. It demands a single, fixed and eternal solution. AKA, conservatism. Not sure why so many Leftists have allowed it to happen, nor how they're remain apparently oblivious to the role reversal.
     

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