Taiwan warns Chinese aircraft in its air defense zone

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  1. FreshAir

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    Discord and Americans attacking each other over stupid propoganda like you just spouted is one reason we appear weak but the other is poor leadership.

    Putin doesn't care if we like him or not. That doesn't come into his calculations.
     
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    Trump loves that he was able to help Trump win in 2016.... to him it's pay back
     
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    Taiwan will have the same faith as Ukraine if Soviet Russia wins.
    The chinese big brother is watching ....
     
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    Why! Trump used her like a Wet Mop and wiped the floor. Other then occasionally seeing a video pop up of what it would have been like if she had Won, she basically disappears from our minds like a Fart does in the Wind. I can only hope and pray that she announces she's running for President in 2024, I'll get to see more of this:roflol:
    This is PURE! entertainment here.
     
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    we can do that too now, lol

    that was Trumpers the night Trump lost, Biden used Trump like a Wet Mop and wiped the floor

    all the Trump supporters crying when Trump lost... was a sight to see

    https://www.dailydot.com/irl/trump-supporter-meltdown-inauguration/

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    Domino effect.
    If Ukraine will fall, Red China will enter Taiwan :machinegun:
     
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    Of course not, but he would help defend Taiwan.
     
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    Thing is. Taiwan and China are 1 country who had a civil war. It's just like the Donbas is part of Ukraine.
    And so where the US makes an argument for Ukraine that they have a right to territorial integrity and the Donbas + Crime must be part of Ukraine again.... the US just flat out says the opposite for China and it's Taiwan. It's whatever fits the US best and it's not as if China is going to roll with that.
     
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    Billions will disagree with your opinion
     
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    It's not like Donbas, actually. Russia ginned up this separatist movement with disinformation about alleged racism and genocide against ethnic Russians and nasty lies about Euromaidan. The Taiwanese experienced a democracy movement and did not want to be Communists. They chose their independence the same as Americans chose and fought for independence from the British Empire.
     
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    hmm name major country that actually recognize taiwan as sovereign nation? we recognize ukraine as sovereign nation, but non of EU/N.america nation recognize taiwan as sovereign nation.
     
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    Another attempt to dodge and twist facts. We're on to all of your tactics.
     
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    what twist facts lol, this is the fact, seriously name one major country that recognize taiwan as sovereign nation? if taiwan declare independence back in 60s, they probably want be in the current situation right now.
     
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    Billions are indoctrinated about the idea Taiwan is independent country. It's just not a country. Palestina is a country. Facts matter, not emotions.
    The Taiwanese government used to rule China, as in mainland + Taiwan before the civil war.
    The Taiwanese government calls what they govern ROC, as in Republic of CHINA.

    Sure you can say that de facto the ROC is like an independent country, since they do whatever.
    Same can be said about the 2 break away eastern parts of Ukraine. It has been like that since 2014.
    There really is zero difference. Yet the reasoning flip flops depending what suits the west best.
     
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    Them 2 countries(and I do not care that if it's democratic or not) in the east of Ukraine are ruled independently from Ukraine, just like Taiwan is ruled independently. There really is zero difference. Yet the reasoning who may secede from what flip flops depending what suits the west best for the west. It just is.

    While Ukraine did not have such a "democratic" idea in 2014, when an angry mob made the government flee, setting of a civil war.
     
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    I do not see how that justifies Taiwan not being a country, and am not sure what you are trying to say.
     
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    Are you claiming that the two break away Ukrainian Republics have never actually been ruled by Ukraine for a long time?

    You are not being the most clear.
     
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    Them 2 break away parts of Ukraine only have been ruled by Ukraine since the 1990's or something when Ukraine became independent. So that's about 25 years / till 2014. And during those 25 years, Ukraine was a massive pro Russian country. Before that them lands were part of the Russian empire for centuries. It's also full with massive % of ethnic Russians, who speak Russian etc etc etc. So you can go emotional on it, but I do not believe that an ethnic cultural link gets severed after 25 years. That's 25 years where them ethnic Russians were force fed Russian culture every day by themselves in their pro Russian country.

    While Taiwan and mainland China,... the only difference they got is how to govern. They all got the exact same ethnicity, religion and cultural background going back 100's or even 1000's of years, while they do not have any other country who they are ethnically, culturally, religiously connected too.

    Am I like, telling you anything new?
    I think not.
     

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