Tea party afraid Obamacare will be sucess

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Now, another red state joins:




http://www.vox.com/2014/5/15/5716350/indianas-expanding-medicaid-thats-a-big-deal



Despite vocal opposition to Obamacare, Governor Mike Pence of Indiana just joined the ranks of conservative state officials willing to compromise with the federal government to expand health coverage for their states' poorest residents ... there's a growing body of evidence that Medicaid is a great deal for states. For 2014 through the end of 2016, the federal government will pick up the complete tab for Medicaid expansion, so when states delay expansion, they're leaving federal dollars on the table. A recent analysis from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities found that expansion only raises state Medicaid spending by 1.6% between 2015 and 2024 relative to not expanding. Since Indiana residents have to make federal tax payments, they're still helping finance expansion in other states; they're just not seeing any benefit at home.




800,000 "dumb" Indiana residents will now have Medicaid coverage. If ACA was not a success it would have fewer people sign on. Instead, thousands more sign on every day without fail which proves it is a SUCCESS.


While the right wing cries at the thought of saving lives, patriotic Americans rejoice at having their fellow citizens benefit from common sense law.



Thank you Mr Obama for saving American lives!

 

Actually the Feds are compromising since HIP is an insurance plan and not medicaid. Hate to point this out to you little feller but 100% of people on Obamacare will die.

 

That is very impressive. I cannot make the same claim since twenty years of my insurance were paid by a corporation and after that I could not get insurance at any price due to a preexisting condition. Did however pay for my own trips to India to get required surgeries. And no I have never gotten unemployment or any other government money. Actually have income tax and self employment tax every year.

Since you paid for your own and families health insurance you are aware of the rate at which premiums were increasing versus inflation and the need to do something to reduce costs.

 

as a matter of fact, my rates went up very little prior to ACA. Once ACA kicked in, my rates doubled. I still have 80/20 and fully covered with dental and eye care.
Recently, some of my HB meds were discontinued due to changes in the guide lines for HB treatment, so I had to go to another source to get them. I found the manufacturer for my particular meds were more than glad to deal directly with me and my prescription and I now get it cheaper than before all of this.
My costs for medical care hasn't changed much in 15 years.
Yeah, I know about the self-employment taxes...........disgusting when you own your own business.....that tax is a fine for doing well.

 

So utterly pathetic that it is the Laugh of the year!

 

Another red state benefits from "Obamacare":


http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/05/16/3438782/hospitals-arkansas/



Obamacare = a complete victory for America!

 

You mean the new and fundamentally changed Amerika! Most real patriots would not recognize it.

 

You don't want obamacare to succeed? Interesting. I guess you want America to fail. Bill Maher cited a statistic analogy that the amount of people who benefited from obamacare outnumbered the people who were "hurt" (barely) by 9:1. If you want America to fail, just so you'll be right, than your wrong. The bills not going away, and your party has been doing nothing to reform the mistakes it does have.

Just threw a hissy fit that cost millions of tax payer dollars. Sure, they can hold 55 votes on obamacare, but not one on immigration. Their committee seems okay by me

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You, the hard working right wing patriot was laid off? I'm sure your stance on ETIC and UI changed considerably

 

That's been my opinion from day one. That goes for more than just ACA. If they gave the Democrats half the hell they are currently dishing out, then we'll actually accomplish something. Don't be fooled people. They hold up congress by the now tagged term "hostage taking", and defend theif lack of progress by blaming everything on Obama.

^ Didn't republicans say exactly this back in the Bush administration? Don'tnbe hypocritical mindless masses

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-11e3-8dcc-d6b7fede081a_story.html?tid=pm_pop



Republican governor Pence, after intensive negotiations with the Obama administration, just announced his intent to take the money Obamacare provides for Medicaid expansion and to use it on his own terms to broaden health-care coverage for the working poor ... That was an implicit rebuke of his former House colleagues who have a “repeal and replace” slogan but have not offered much of a substitute for Obamacare while at the same time attempting to cut food stamps and other parts of the safety net ... This, of course, is what Obamacare is all about. As more conservatives realize that the law they hate allows them to implement policies they like, they may have trouble recalling what all the fuss was about.




ACA = Saving money and lives every day!

 

Have you actually read Kafka?

 

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-... Medicine-Because-ObamaCare-Says-She-Is-a-Man

 

Bill Maher is an idiot. The numbers you cite are BS. Quit regurgitating liberal BS.

Nobody should be on government assistance long-term. They are only there to help you get on your feet, then go away. Not a way of life.

 

What if someone is disabled, some just need government help to live.

 

I knew one person that got assistance because they could not get out of bed to go to work. I knew another with debilitating spinal arthritis that could not get assistance. The system is broken.

 

Pennsylvania logger Dean Angstadt needed valve-replacement surgery to fix a life-threatening heart problem, but he wasn't sure he could afford the procedure, as the Philadelphia Inquirer reported Monday. Though Angstadt was initially leery of ObamaCare, he signed up after enough prodding from a friend, enrolling in a plan that in the first month cost him just $26.11.

New plan in hand, Angstadt got the surgery and pulled through. "I could have done backflips if I was in better shape," he told the Inquirer.

So why did he resist enrolling in ObamaCare for so long? As he explained to the Washington Post's Erik Wemple, he's a Fox News guy who trusted Republicans' dire warnings about the law.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/260739/speedreads-fox-news-viewer-obamacare-saved-my-life

 

Shelby Higdon, a female college student, told a South Carolina news station that she’s been unable to get her medication because her Obamacare insurance plan has marked her as a man.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/21/w...althcare-gov-thinks-shes-a-man/#ixzz32SwaPC1z

 

You already said that. I read it in your last post.

 

So? You also have not posted about people getting life saving operations without Obamacare or insurance. All this has done is make everyone else spend more just to get the same thing.

 

Ok, as you apparently think repeating posts somehow makes a stronger point.

Pennsylvania logger Dean Angstadt needed valve-replacement surgery to fix a life-threatening heart problem, but he wasn't sure he could afford the procedure, as the Philadelphia Inquirer reported Monday. Though Angstadt was initially leery of ObamaCare, he signed up after enough prodding from a friend, enrolling in a plan that in the first month cost him just $26.11.

New plan in hand, Angstadt got the surgery and pulled through. "I could have done backflips if I was in better shape," he told the Inquirer.

So why did he resist enrolling in ObamaCare for so long? As he explained to the Washington Post's Erik Wemple, he's a Fox News guy who trusted Republicans' dire warnings about the law.
http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/260739/speedreads-fox-news-viewer-obamacare-saved-my-life

 

Why don't we send the uninsured to the other countries? Problem solved.

 

Get the government at every level completely out of health care. You buy and pay for what you want. I will buy and pay for what I want. Any company can sell policies for insurance (or, if they are so inclined, for pre-paid health care) anywhere in the US.

Problem solved.

 

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Your posts are evidence that tyranny never gives up.

 

Love this thread. It continues on. It is so stupid. Why would Tea Party members be afraid that Obama Care will be successful? The Tea Party simply wants the Federal government to stop excessive spending, stop interfering with their personal lives/choices and return control provided by the Constitution to the States. If Obama Care should happen to be successful as it promised, meaning, lower the average premiums, lower the costs of ER visits, lower the cost of providing health care, providing subsidies to those that earn below the poverty level as defined by HHS and SSA(unfortunately no subsidies if you earn too little, you are told to apply for sub-standard Medicaid) No subsidy for you eventhough you have a full time job. And, if you are a student age 27 you are "screwed". LIes, Lies, and more lies. Never was this law deficit neutral (don't believe me, search the CBO website). Only through, "creative accounting" was it deficit neutral. And, it has already cost more than projected and out premiums and costs for subsidies and ER visits have already increased. Lies and more lies.\\

 

That does not solve the problem of the uninsured which is one of the major issues that Obama care tried to address. Also does not address the issue of price increases for healthcare that are many times the inflation rate. In order for your proposal to work two things would need to occur.

1) All health insurance would have to be purchased directly by individuals. Corporations would have to increase pay to compensate for not supplying health insurance.

2) In any instance where the individual was not covered by insurance the person would have to pay in advance for their doctor/ hospital costs. If you did not have insurance or could not pay in advance you would be denied care.

I doubt either of the above would be acceptable in our society.