Tea Party is Ba-aaaack!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Smartmouthwoman, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. CaptainAngryPants

    CaptainAngryPants New Member

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    Tea Party folks see themselves something like this....

    [video=youtube;UQQ9ySdQ5Qs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQQ9ySdQ5Qs[/video]
     
  2. CaptainAngryPants

    CaptainAngryPants New Member

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    But I see the Tea Party as being something more like this....

    [video=youtube;5O1KfdU_Ex0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O1KfdU_Ex0[/video]
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because, God forbid, smaller central control is so fascist. Liberal Logic 101.
     
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    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

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    How does this picture remind you of the Tea Party? I see a lot of govt agents in that picture. I've traveled throughout many countries in the world, and I have developed my own gauge to freedom: In order to live and function in a particular society, how often must I come into contact with a govt agent? It varies from country to country from what I've found. It is our current govt that seems to be increasing the regularity of contact with govt agents. The Tea Party seems to be advocating for less.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fascist is just the favored liberal pejorative. It doesn't mean what they think it does but it is just another of their proxy words for evil (meaning not Statist).
     
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    Oh boy, glitches in a huge, highly technical, start-up computer system and the Whacky Birds (McCain, not me) think they have been resurrected and gone to heaven. Now you're just making yourselves sound like you've never sat down at a keyboard before. Your desire to see America fail is duly noted.
     
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    I can agree with that but the only chaos is within the wuss and wimp factions of the Republican Party. What we need is widespread chaos.
     
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    Whether it works or not, Dems will say it works and Reps will say it fails. The indicators will be too fuzzy for the man on the street to draw valid conclusions either way. My prognostication is that the Dems will do a better job of selling their position because the Republicans have made life very difficult for themselves over the course of the past 3 weeks.
     
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    I would think that too if it wasn't for what I'm hearing among the low-income bracket on the streets. And I'm hearing opposition to ACA from the poor. It's not the $100 or so fine per year for free health insurance that they are complaining about. It's the fact that wages are already barely livable, and now people have another deduction from their checks per month. Many don't even know what this monthly amount will be yet. But they are being told, if full-time, that they must buy into these programs. I've heard this from more than 1 person. I can't judge how big this backlash will be, but I can say it is a threat to Dems, as they are tied to this law.
     
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    Government agents? Where do you see government agents?
     
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    Keep forgetting about subsidies. Who knows why you do? Its hilarious to watch you to try to pass off dishonesty as honesty.
     
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    What subsidies? Forgetting? Unlike many Americans, I and many I know don't continually seek govt programs to get money, and spend time to figure out how they function. So no, I'm not familiar with them. It probably has something to do with my disdain for interaction with govt agents; I believe there is enough already in my "free" country.
     
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    Aye. If the current politican situation might be viewed as a game of strategery :D then the Republicans, and especially Tea Party, have made a move that pretty well links the Democrats alone to the UCA. This may well serve to keep the Dems from successfully laying blame at the feet of the Reps later on, when this legislation grows to epic levels of unpopularity and people are ready to lynch whoever backed it.

    Also, I think this talk of a $100 penalty is too low. Here's what I've found:

    Under the final rule, individuals will be required to report on their fiscal year 2015 tax returns whether they had health insurance in 2014. Nonexempt individuals who failed to purchase insurance will be required to pay a fine of $95 or 1% of the household income, whichever is greater. The annual penalty will increase to $695 per person beginning 2016 -- or 2.5% of taxable annual income -- with the total amount increasing with inflation, the Wall Street Journal's "Washington Wire" reports.
    http://www.californiahealthline.org...ses-final-aca-individual-mandate-penalty-rule
     
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    Watch the vid, I'm not playing where's Waldo here.
     
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    Do you see government agents everywhere? Are they watching you?
     
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    So,no comment on real evidence that fox & the GOP are lying & misleading you-"VERY INTERESTING"!
    But from your comment,it seems you need a little educating on OBAMACARE-so ,here goes-----You think OBAMACARE is a Government talkeover on health Insurance---NO,it is not----An estimated 48 milliom uninsured people are mandated to obtain affordable health care insurance in the "OPEN MARKET" noone with insurance or Medicare or Medicaid eligibility is effected-subsidies are provided to "assist" low-income people & families. This is not a Government take over but an extention of the current market-based insurance system.
    Companies with "50" or more full-time employees are required to provide affordable health care insurance. Firms that size make up only 4% of all companies in the U.S.,so,96% of American companiesare not subject to the mandate.
    Of the companies that are required to provide insurance,it is estimated that more than 95% already do so. The remaining 5% probably employ about 1% of American workers. The effect on employment if any,is not significant. (Wharton School of Business)
    Hey,it is a free country,you are entitled to your opinion & political ideology-however,I think it is fair to say that your opinion,as mine,should be based on a foundation of true facts & then arguments on party & ideology.It is hard to argue with your points & find any credibility in your statements because they are not based on facts,as the Salon link shows quite clearly Fox & the GOP are lying to you & misleading you & your post shows.
     
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    That's exactly what Im talking about. LMAO!
     
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    What a load of crap. It is NOT an open market because the ACA mandates that all insurance must cover things regardless of who is purchasing it thus driving the cost up, hence the fight over requiring birth control coverage. People who buy insurance will still be supporting the subsidies for poor people to get the insurance. Where exactly do you think subsidies come from? Why do liberals seem to think that if the government pays for it its free and doesn't cost anyone anything? Why exactly are we paying taxes if they have some magical money tree?
     
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    Before Obamacare government controlled 47% of health care dollars. With Obamacare it will control around 66% of health care dollars. All of those dollars come with strings attached.
     
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    They certainly are everywhere in that video. You don't see govt uniforms, arms, and trucks there? Govt uniforms, arms, and trucks don't in any way relate to the Tea Party. You said it reminded you of them.
     
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    Not much of a historian are you. It's the Fascists march on Rome, look it up. Those are all civilian members of an extreme right wing minority party who bullied their way into power.....much like the Tea Party.
     
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    Again, fascism is something the left throws around without understanding what it means.
     
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    I'll tell you what is a load of crap-"ANYTHING" coming out of any of the tea-party's mouth--I wouldn't take your word on anything---but here's what I will tell you before I put you on my ignore list---If you friggin wacho far right extremists don't like our system of Government,you are free to leave our country to go hi-jack another country to destroy & see how far you get until you come crawling back. I'm so sick & tired of you GOPBAGGING, loud mouthed crooked,conniving,selfish jerks trying to tell me & everyone else in America how we should live. And I am quite sure I'm only one in millions that feel this way---
     
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    America will be stronger with a three-party system. It's a great time for the GOP to split apart the fiscal and social conservatives into two parties. It may weaken the party for a few years but I think the long-term benefits would really help the GOP. The fiscal conservatives would probably get many votes from social moderates, for example.

    Today, the Tea Party is simply not allowing the GOP to be socially moderate, so they are seen as radicalized and scary.
     
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    Go ahead and put me on ignore. Its pretty typical behavior for someone like you since you are at the developmental stage of a toddler. If you aren't even aware that Obamacare mandates coverage of certain things then you are a liar or are being willfully ignorant.

    This only took me 5 seconds to fine. http://www.hrsa.gov/womensguidelines/

    "Under the Affordable Care Act, women’s preventive health care – such as mammograms, screenings for cervical cancer, prenatal care, and other services – generally must be covered by health plans with no cost sharing. However, the law recognizes and HHS understands the need to take into account the unique health needs of women throughout their lifespan.

    The HRSA-supported health plan coverage guidelines, developed by the Institute of Medicine (IOM), will help ensure that women receive a comprehensive set of preventive services without having to pay a co-payment, co-insurance or a deductible. HHS commissioned an IOM study to review what preventive services are necessary for women’s health and well-being and therefore should be considered in the development of comprehensive guidelines for preventive services for women. HRSA is supporting the IOM’s recommendations on preventive services that address health needs specific to women and fill gaps in existing guidelines."

    Why exactly am I paying for stuff that I will never use as a single guy? I can buy my own condoms for a hell of a lot cheaper than paying extra insurance premuims and I don't need stuff like prenatal care of mammograms or pelvic exams etc. This is insanity that YOU DEMOCRATS brought onto this country.

    So, now that I have shown you to be a completely liar and a fraud and nothing more than a partisan shill you can go ahead and put me on your ignore list. We wouldn't want any facts to disturb your carefully constructed view of reality would we?
     

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