Teach us how to revolt please, France.

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  1. billy the kid

    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Well, by now everyone will be fully aware of the protests occurring in France
    over Macrons fuel/climate change tax laws. 400 people have been arrested, hundreds of cars have been burnt, and of course, questions are being asked as to the organization now know as the "yellow vests". Who are they? Who are they indeed?
    But here in Australia, we go about our daily lives in our usual meek manner with our
    "she'll be right mate attitude" and begrudgingly pay whatever we are told to pay at the petrol bowsers. Would we revolt? Heavens no. Would we change our vote at the next election?
    God no. We'll think about it, but overall, our present gutless society will just cop it on the
    chin like that boofhead Mundine did last week and do nothing.
    Every year, when there is a holiday period, up go the petrol prices, and no-one does a thing about it.
    Which brings me to the new tax on a tax on a tax on softdrinks that we will be paying soon.
    I always thought govt. couldnt impose a tax on a tax.
    Well, GST is now charged on softdrinks (28% on Coke) and in various states, a litter tax is also charged on softdrinks, (albeit as part of a refund scheme on returned containers).
    Now, guess what, we are about to be charged a sugar tax on softdrinks, because we are
    all obese!!!
    That to me is a tax on a tax on a tax...although they'll call it a levy....pft...
    And guess what...no-one will do a bloody thing about it...we will all just pay up and shut up.

    https://www.quora.com/Can-a-restaur...ng-a-meal-Does-it-constitute-composite-supply
    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/h...9/news-story/0152a91b11ac76f2ece40755ed12af91
     
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    I've always admired the French for their uncompromising fearlessness of 'authority': we stupid Brits have an irrational respect for 'authority', and a most peculiar blind belief in so-called experts. We will kowtow to the former like obedient servants to their masters, (when in fact it's the other way around, and the authorities are our servants and we are their paymasters), and some of us believe what the latter (the so-called 'experts') tell them without questioning it, either because they're gullible, or apparently because they have some sort of intellectual inferiority complex.
     
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    So now we all love violent street protests?
    I look forward to hearing everybody cheer on the next ANTIFA atrocity.

    Geez the hypocrisy is strong around here.

    Do you want people to bring down democratically elected governments through violence or accept that elections have consequences?

    Four people lost their lives due to these riots and hundreds were injured.
     
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    If you disagree with taxes levied, then impose your own tax next election cycle and make them pay with their jobs. Make sure their replacements understand fully why their predecessors were fired.
     
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    What is a viable reason to riot? The French think its ok to do this when their own government, the one the French people elected, puts too much taxes on their society. SJWs in America think its alright to riot when the electorate says something they don't agree with.
     
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    Wont work...one mob is as bad as the other...try again...
     
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    There is social unrest worldwide, but in Australia, we are so meek, we just cop the taxes
    and ask whose shout is it...no one has the stones to do anything....
     
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    Mob rule is not a viable alternative to incompetant government.
     
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    Mob rule is not ok and in my opinion the real problem is that the French police didn't crack down when it became obvious people were stock piling and preparing to get violent. Has nothing to do with being meek...it's about respecting rule of law.

    I get disgusted with the tactics...taking over universities, destroying property....it's nothing but criminal...and people don't need a viable reason if they know it works.
     
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    I think the point Billy is trying to make is that the French would burn the Parliament over a bad pastry, yet Australians can only muster a moan into their frothy over bad policy and total government sell out of the people.
     
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    Exactly.
    Australians have been in the "pay up and shut up" mode for decades.
    Nothing will change because we couldnt be bothered. Just keep watching the footy,
    swilling beer and betting on the ponies.
    Most Australians wouldnt even know they are being dumbed down.
    Ask anyone what they think about the Paris riots and they wouldnt know
    they are even occurring, but ask them about Wayne Bennetts tribulations, or who's
    playing for St George this year and you'll get a lengthy, long winded answer..
    In actual truth, this thread received the comments/responses I thought it would.
    No-one is really interested in rebelling against their tax burdons.
     
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    Let me wish everyone a merry xmas...
    I hope you all enjoy the petrol prices we are paying at the moment (without protesting)
    $1.67 in Brisbane..the highest ever...
     
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    Rioting is a national sport in France. They do it extremely well. Le jour de gloire est arrivé - and it seems to arrive annually.
     
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    Yes

    But, it is an indicator the gov't is derelict with considerations of the people
    it is said to represent.

    Sadly, :flagus: people don't get it, yet.
    Why work at Walmart when one can have the same standard of living on Welfare,
    and get to sleep in mornings.

    Work should count for something.


     
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    Most of the protesters are peacefull, there is some thugs infiltrated into the protests which create problems, but the vast majority of protesters are peacefull and against any act of violence. The police lack of means, and I tend to think that the government don't want the protest to happen peacefully, it's a way for them to discredit the protest. "Oh look at them, they're violent".

    France is a two round election system, and Macron got only 21 % of the votes at the first round and got the other one only because of the fear of the FN which had decades of propaganda against them.
     
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    All good points, however the same could be said of the not my President and pu$$y hat demo's in the States yet many of those expressing distate for them are here now cheering on what is happening in France.
    Could it be that some people care more about the message than the method of expressing their unhappiness with the government, which could be seen as hypocrisy by more balanced onlookers?
     
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    Some time past Chris Hedges, one of the remaining real journalists, made it clear that without violent revolution to excise the tumor of government superiority over the people, freedom throughout the West is dead as a door-nail.

    The question before us is whether the Western peoples are too brainwashed, too firmly locked in The Matrix, too exhausted to stand up and defend their freedom. Resistance is happening in France and Belgium, but the government that sold out Greece hasn’t been hung off of lamp posts. Americans are so brainwashed that they think Russia, China, Iran, Syria, North Korea, and Venezuela are their enemies when it is perfectly clear that their Enemy is “their” government in Washington.

    Except for my American readers, Americans are locked in The Matrix. And they will kill in order to stay in The Matrix, where the controlled explanations are reassuring. Anyone who looks to Washington for leadership is an idiot.

    Washington is a master of propaganda. Washington’s propaganda has even infected the Russian government, which from all reports stupidly believes that accommodation to Washington is the secret that will make Russia successful.

    A government this stupid has no chance of survival.


     
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    Belgium: Amid violent protests, Prime Minister resigns over his support for UN migration pact

    Interesting.
     
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    Moi may not agree
     
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    Yeah, who wants democracy when you can have mob rule.
    Power to the people comrade.
    Freedom for Tooting...
     
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    Did you mean looting?
     
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    Its a reference to an old British sitcom called ''Citizen Smith''.
    I thought it may have been shown in Aus'.

     
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