Teacher beheaded in Paris suburb after showing cartoons of Prophet Mohammed to class

You’d think that the West would have learned by now that certain actions will attract particular responses.

Why do you keep putting your hand in the fire?

 

I think there is an interesting thing about apathy in the west. When it's about the debt, ecological troubles, ressource troubles and growing trouble of radical islam, there is no answer because westerners became too much apathic.
The reason of this apathy could be debated, but basically, we're too much fed and entertained to care of the fact that we're on a sinking boat.

 

The apathy is a result of the West’s own value-system. It chose to perceive human existence from a purely cerebral premise, and everything that it has reflected unto the world (and to itself) has been drawn exclusively from a post-Enlightenment frame of thought.

It turned out to be bull****. Yes, you can look at the world through the lens of material perception (science), but that doesn’t mean that there aren't things that the intellect cannot readily detect.

This explains the destruction of the forests that the Native Americans held sacred (and still do); the brutal subjugation of the black peoples; and the ongoing cases of the deliberate lampooning of the Prophet.

But here’s the thing: As you reflect unto the East, so does the East reflect unto you. They get a little bit of you, and you get a little bit of them. It’s the only way to usher in world peace on earth. ✌️

 

Yes. Most people don't mind being in a cage, as long as it's comfortable enough.

 

I doubt, Korea and Japan have similar troubles. Apathy when there is over stimulation is a widely noticed trouble.

 

What about Korea and Japan? Both countries, albeit heavily influenced by Western thought and standards, still nevertheless retain some form of elements that harken back to ancestral and pre-industrial paradigms (this is especially true for North Korea).

 

Because the principle of free speech is worth the price to preserve it. If it requires war and death to keep us free, so be it. I hope it's mostly the death of would-be tyrants, but I understand that "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants."

 

This kind of thinking is what has brought the west where it is and it is fundamentally WRONG. The problem is with the attacker, not the people who provoked the attack. Resorting to violence is a sign of low IQ, and some people seem to want to justify it if they believe the receiving party "deserved it". Please stop perpetuating this type of thinking. I don't care if you're black and someone calls you the N word. That is not a ticket to attack them even if what they said is vile and offensive. Time for the west to stand behind freedom and civility and stop making excuses for emotionally unstable people like our black power rioters we have to deal with here in the states.

 

Correct, the West can no longer allow those who have contempt for Western values to continue to benefit from it!

In the same vein, the Western world needs to realize that some if its actions will have reactions on a dimension which it may have never have envisioned before, which is a consequence of the West perceiving reality from a mindset that has been inundated with Enlightenment and post-industrial revolution thought for a good while now.

For example, imagine traversing to an ancient forest located on an Indian Reservation land. There, you encounter a tribal chieftain who tells you that if you do so and so in the forest, then such and such will happen to you.

You scoff at him and pointedly explain that you’ve read Locke and Rousseau, and have great virtuosity in the know-hows of the universe. He shrugs and responds with “okey dokey.” The next day, you find yourself transformed into a snail.

The above is a befitting analogy for this subject-matter. If you came to me and said that you wanted to insult and malign the Prophet in the most hideous of ways, I’d say to you that although I wholeheartedly accept your right to perform whatever actions that your heart may desire- ah- I wouldn’t do that if I were you.

Alas, you do not heed my call, and find yourself being decapitated by some brown guy who smells of urine and can barely speak two words of English.

 

I heard, "Teacher Beheaded" and poor little xenophobe me thought immediately, the religion of peace strikes again. I hate being right all the time.

 

Actually.. you can... but the consequences can be serious. No wonder there is an Exodus of Jews from France to Israel.


How Jews fleeing anti-Semitism in France are influencing Israeli politics

 

Jews have always been fleeing Christian Europe.

 

Careful, you're putting ideas in people's heads.

Hmmm, I never thought of that!

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When I first of heard of insulting cartoons of Mohamed in Denmark, I was shocked at the lack of sensibility and respect towards others. It's one thing to voice one's opinion - which I do often, but another to insult and humiliate. So why do these people persist in doing it?

Anyway it shows how low our society has fallen. So much for this so called; 'secular humanism'. It doesn't exist! A return to paganism would be more accurate.

 

Good old "put the blame of muslims on christian".
France is the third biggest jewish community in Europe and the safest place for jews since the revolution excepted ww2 even if there was wide spread antisemitism in early 20th century.
Let look at who killed jews those last twenty years :
Youssouf Fofana tortured to death a young jew for his money : muslim
Mohammed Merah attacked a school and killed many jewish kids and adult, he was an islamic terrorist.
In a coordinated way of the terrorist of Charlie Hebdo, Amedy Coulibaly took hostages in a kasher shop leading to several death.
Gisele Halimi, Mireille Knoll two old ladies murdered in a separate but similar manner by two islamic thugs. One of them survived the nazis but not the islamic thugs.

The third biggest jewish community isn't fleeing a dying christianity but Islam.

 

Mr. Hitler thought otherwise.

Sure, you can provide us with ample examples of some insecure brown guys hacking at Jews, but the reality is that these bozos have never been a significant and real threat to Jewish economic dominance.

That would be Christianity, which is why Jews have always called for the unmitigated immigration by third-world illiterates into whitey land.

 

I'm speaking of 3 YO shot in the head and people tortured to death and you're speaking of economic dominance. I suppose the firdt worry the most ordinary jews.

 

Well, where were you (not you personally) when the Jews were dropping bombs on stick-carrying Palestinians? Is it only a problem when it’s happening in your own backyard?

Indeed, the West has for long now been projecting its own insecurity and violence on the East, casting all their evils on the latter just so the Western world wouldn’t have to take a look in the mirror.

Yes, the West did not conquer the Middle East by winning hearts and minds, but through its own modern and sophisticated forms of organized violence.

Let’s be real, sonny: Everyone is full of ****, it’s just that some people make superior bull****ters.

 

Yes, I'm french, so I worry on what happen in my own country. I don't appreciate what Israel is doing, but it's not my business.

What's happening in the middle east is terrible, but it's not the case there. We're speaking of a teacher beheaded because of a few drawings, and because the french authorities tend to tread their own country as the garbage can of the world, welcoming every over zealous isamists.

 

Here is Charlie Hebro's response to the bait being bitten.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rlie-hebdo-teacher-death-latest-b1098109.html

Anyone still trying to say these Cartoons are about anything but malicious Islamophobia? While again obviously the Teacher did not deserve this, it looks pretty much to me like a deliberately set up, to indulge in Islamophobia as I think was the previous one when several people were killed - though I cannot remember why people were saying they were obviously asking for what they eventually got. Let's not pretend any more that Charlie Hebro are anything but deliberately setting up situations which they believe will get a crazy Muslim to respond to in a crazy way so that they can do '38 on France's Muslims. Lets not forget that Kristallnacht was supposedly a response to the assassination of a German Diplomat by one 17 year old German born Polish Jew. Same thinking going on in France by Charlie Hebro and being drunk up by some in the population.

 

Voltre Altesse, while it is true that apart from these terrorists acts French citizens have not been involved in what happens in the ME but your Government has been involved in it and what was done there has killed millions of people and make millions more homeless. I remember France in particular being told that if it got involved in the bombing in Syria it would know terrorism at home. The UK was told by intelligence services that if they attacked Iraq they almost certainly would experience Islamic terrorism at home. We did and we did. We have not been innocent while our Governments destroyed the Middle East including supporting ISIS and Al Qaeda types in their desire for Regime Change in Syria.

 

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Alexa cant 'see' what I write here because she's 'unfriended me' on PF (apparently I've upset her somehow.) But what she fails to mention is that the teacher concerned before presenting the cartoons as part of a lesson on freedom of speech suggested that any Muslim student who might be offended by them could leave the classroom if they so desired.

In other words conscious of the fact there may have been religious sensitivities in play he provided and avenue for anyone likely to be offended to avoid that part of the lesson. How in any sane (non-conspiratorial worldview) does that action equate to a deliberate attempt to replicate the actions of NAZI Germany in 1938? If nothing else what care did they ever show for the religious and cultural sensitivities of their victims?

 

Same way the Palestinians feel after Israel make peace with Arab countries

 

@alexa Government corruption is an international disease, and I don't know any government that is free of that. There is degrees of corruption and also that corruption is much or less damagefull according to the power of that government.

Furthermore, the terrorist is a chechen not a syrian. Stopping the disease of corruption isn't a fight that have been won yet and we don't know the "vaccine" yet. However on a practical manner we can notice that poland was wiser than us on selecting migrants as they refused this terrorist.

You already know what I think, you can't make coexist people who consider that death penalty should be applied to apostates and blasphemers and people who believe in freedom of blasphemy. We already had that debate and I doubt anything new could be said.

 

yep, and some want blasphemy laws back in our country, even to put the ten commandment in our courts and on their lawns

never give religious fanatics the power to ruin others lives, as they will, and they will think they are doing it in the name of their God, which ironically is the same God for both religions