Teachers claim hundreds from high school will graduate even though they shouldn't

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  1. danielpalos

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    difficult topics and commonly missed concepts and questions could be covered and available on YouTube.
     
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    Sounds like an opinion piece.
     
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    Liberals? Let's get one thing straight. This is NOT liberals.

    This is ADMINISTRATION and scrambling for state funds. Not liberals.

    My wife is a teacher. She had one kid in ESL who deserved to fail. the administration FORCED the kid through 8th grade because it impacted their state funding if the kid failed. This kid refused to do work, and his parents didn't care.

    This is TRUE. It is true that schools are pushing failures through. No child left behind and other idiotic policies are the cause, not "liberals", and of course, MBA's running schools as admins versus actual educators.
     
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    It effectively scaled up the federal role in holding schools accountable for student outcomes. Unfortunately, schools are manipulating the grades and outcomes now, instead of teaching the students and letting them pass on their own merit, using what they've been taught.

    Like I said, now it's just being abused and is useless.

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    I don't know. Probably a window to repeal it without being called racists.
     
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    no it did not, it told the schools they had to pass kids regardless if they could pass or not

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    you get a gold star for the day..... :)
     
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    It doesn't matter where the text books come from when you have teachers and parents who don't try to teach the kids. Books are like guns, if they sit on the desk, they wont read themselves. These horrible teachers are backed and protected from being fired by Democrat backing unions. Unions are for the teachers, not the students, and the people who the unions support are always democrats. These kids aren't even getting the questions right when the answers are right in from of them. The book from TX could say 2+2=5, but these kids still wont get the "right" answer since teachers are being treated as public funded daycare workers.
     
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    "The NCLB law(*)—which grew out of concern that the American education system was no longer internationally competitive(*)(*)—significantly increased the federal role in holding schools responsible for the academic progress of all students. And it put a special focus on ensuring that states and schools boost the performance of certain groups of students, such as English-language learners, students in special education, and poor and minority children, whose achievement, on average, trails their peers. States did not have to comply with the new requirements, but if they didn’t, they risked losing federal Title I money."

    Looking at this law, it's the federal government's job to investigate these schools for not boosting the performance of the students with a lesser chance of achievement.
     
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    And what about football players with IQ close to idiocy level graduating from college?
     
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    I see you mentioned the phrase "more money" 3 times in your post. People like you never tire of throwing "more money" into the war machine to invade weaker countries and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Imagine this scenario: Instead of spending a trillion dollars annually to make war, why not spend it on education? What a novel idea!!!

     
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    Your whole post is wrong. It is not "hundreds" who will graduate even though they are idiots; it is probably closer to millions. There are around 50 million kids in K-12. Most of them couldn't pass a GED test. There are also millions who graduate from college who couldn't pass a GED.
     
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    So democrats pass them anyway? wtf?

    I will say this is where McDonald workers start demanding 15 bucks an hour, cause its like some kinda achievement to flip burgers....
     
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    They play in the NFL.
     
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    ATL, they spend twice as much per student than say counties in central GA. Central GA kids were never being fed answers to the standardized tests to get a higher score. So, looking at all the data, simply throwing money at the problem doesn't help, and Charter schools and home schools far succeed past public school.
     
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    I have always wonder what part of education football fit into
     
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    so you acknowledge republicans are also to blame?
     
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    Actually, no child left behind prohibited the continuation of social promotion
     
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    I do agree that bad teachers need to be easier to fire, the bad teachers are usually republicans btw
     
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    but it did not do that, it made things worse... punished kids for being late even for things like bad weather... which of course just made parents call kids in sick rather then get them their late

    good intentions gone bad
     
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    Huh, prove it. Citation needed.

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    By a progressive in the GOP. Not sure if people believe that all republicans are "good", but I am sure most know that no party is spotless from corruption. NCLB was bad on so many levels, its essentially socialism for education.
     
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    Education does not really needs all this money. It is a black money hole - you may spend all you want and get no results. The main problem of education - it is tailored to needs of bad students, not good ones. It promotes "self respect" instead of learning. It makes parents not responsible for their children.
     
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    Most of them don't graduate. They "get by" until they get drafted into the NFL. But you'll notice most of them are majoring in General Studies, if that tells you anything. I'll admit that lately, though, I've noticed that a lot of college players are being suspended because of academic reasons.
     
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    NCLB was designed to motivate the teachers to be competitive and if their classes kept failing due to students not learning, they would lose funding. Nobody wants to lose funding, so teaching the children all the things they need to know in order to pass was the incentive to keep the funds rolling in. You're asking for welfare for schools now. Funding for doing nothing with the students. Where's the incentive to do good?
     
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    You tell me...

    "It was the product of a collaboration between civil rights and business groups, as well as both Democrats and Republicans on Capitol Hill and the Bush administration"

    It was created to give the schools funding for being competitive, and to give minority students the chance to achieve the same goals as their advanced peers. Both parties had a hand in this, but it's no longer producing the outcome it was supposed to bring. The federal government is supposed to investigate the schools that are not up to par, but the schools are knowingly lying about test scores so that they won't be investigated, and so that they can keep the funds rolling in, and the current administration won't look into any of it like the law is designed for them to do.

    It's time to either repeal it or reformat and update it.
     

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