Teachers claim hundreds from high school will graduate even though they shouldn't

That's what I've been telling you, friend. It's time to either repeal it or reformat the entire thing. It's useless and no longer doing what it's supposed to do.

 

lol, "By a progressive in the GOP."

 

ok. republicans are also to blame, as they have done absolutely nothing about it since taking control of congress.

 

Yeah I don't recall blaming one side or the other. The point being that the program is now useless and needs to be repealed or redone.

 

But, upon graduation, they deserve 15 an hour.

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What if capitalists made like Henry Ford and simply doubled wages?

 

Los Angeles, huh?

Viva, la no education!

 

You do understand how passing legislation works right?

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of course. so, what has the republican controlled congress been waiting for?

 

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#1 - No one party or ideology can be blamed solely on one group. To do so is ignorance. The destruction of the public school system was accomplished over a long period of time and with the tacit approval of all parties involved.

#2 - Brown v. The Board of Education decision by SCOTUS started the ball rolling. The problem with the ruling, the decision did not spell out any sort of method for ending racial segregation in schools, and the Court's second decision in Brown II only ordered states to desegregate "with all deliberate speed". Rural schools, especially down south, felt the impact first. In the northern urban schools, people still went to schools that were closest to them....as the system intended. They were called "neighbor schools" for a reason.

#3 - A decade after Brown and after a series of lawsuits, northern urban schools were forced to break up neighborhood schools in the name of racial balance. The school districts were forced to pay for busing out of their own budgets...in other words, this was an unfunded mandate. Busing started a domino effect that is still plaguing many cities today such as white flight to suburbs which starting robbing cities of their tax base. Criminal offenses increased wherever minority students were bused.

#4 - All these costs were paid for with static budgets. Busing, security guards, etc took away money from the primary objective; educate children. Classroom sizes got larger, discipline became a major problem, additional duties and responsibilities were pushed on teachers, without pay. There are still grossly ignorant and massively stupid people who blame this all on teachers.

#5 - When federal help did arrive to public schools, it came with many strings attached. Worst of them was the NCLB act that Bush came up with and Obama continued. It tied test scores and graduation rates to aid. Teachers are still under heavy administrative pressure to pass students who are severely under educated.

 

Yes, and just like this school in Texas they are virtually all black and hispanic. CUNY community colleges are forced to accept all applicants, and "social promotion", invented by liberals, pushes ignorant students to graduate from high school even though they're learned nothing but how to rap and sell drugs.

 

Maybe kids hear their ignorant parents ripping on teachers, "they're paid too much! They are jerks, union thugs, incompetent, we have no respect for teachers.. they are lazy,blahblah blah and kids hear this and don't respect teachers or take what they teach seriously....why would they when their Ignorant parents never have a good thing to say about teachers??


With Ignorant parents , who obviously REFUSE to pay attention as their kids are going through school, blaming the teachers, kids just shrug and agree.....

 

Which came first though--a generation of undereducated high school graduates or calling the teachers jerks, calling them "lazy", and saying they make too much money. I don't put the blame the sorry state of education all on teachers though. The Department of Education can claim most of the blame.
This issue is not a democratic or republican issue. It is an issue about children and what our future will look like with a majority of undereducated students.
I know republicans want to privatize education; and there are plenty of wolves waiting in the wings to get a piece of the $630 billion we spend each year. I don't think that is the answer.

 

I don't think a kid should be held back because he can't run a mile fast enough in gym or didn't pass the final on his foreign language course. But when it comes to the basics the kid needs to pass or stay there until he does. Now if a high school junior can pass the exit exam then he should be able to graduate a year early and not have to mess with the non essential classes.

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Is that what you envision is happening in Chicago, Detroit, LA, etc?

 

So, thanks for agreeing, Ignorant parents, instead paying attention and taking action(you know , taking responsibility for their own kids), resorted to name calling and derision. That taught their kids that blaming others is easier than learning.

 

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I'm not sure what you are getting at.

 

None that's the point, the states should be passing education bills and the feds should keep out of it.

 

well if grammar is the measurement... it would appear my two degrees and 40 years of success and accomplishments are invalidated... I mean, lets review just about every posting I've ever made on this website... with countless dots... after every few words... despite the words and logic I'm using being insanely brilliant (never said I didn't have an ego)... its driven every secretary I've ever had insane... but yes, to the point I made, its amazing how much we continue to lower the bar, then wonder why people are less and less capable despite us spending more and more and at least in initial measurements, we seem to perform better (higher graduation rates, more attending college)... but the end of the day (long-term outcomes), we don't have the gains, just flawed measurements of success initially... I mean when half the kids who attend college never finish, and first year students are taking remedial courses they should have learned in high school, its clear we "move meat" as Steve N said...

P.S. since its a holiday weekend, I shall be moving meat on the grill in celebration of our collapsing educational system... marinated in soy sauce for a couple hours, in case anyone wants to take measurements on the successful taste of the steaks grilled... (lite soy sauce too, not the full salt versions)

 

I'm a newly minted teacher who just changed careers. I'll start teaching full time next school year as an 8th grade math teacher in a rural county in Virginia.

I've been subbing for the last three months in a large school district in central Virginia and I can attest to your statements. I am appalled by the lack of respect and disruptive behavior. The admin staff is overwhelmed by the volume of students sent to their office and they have no apparent recourse except in school detention or "lunch" detention which only serves to give these misbehaving students "hallway cred" and bragging rights.

I've had students return to my classroom after being sent to see the grade level coordinator and they get high fives from their fellow screw ups. One even proclaimed "I won, you can't do nuthin to me sub". I had this happen while the school principal witnessed the entire exchange. The student got right in my face when he said this. The principal shrugged her shoulders and walked away. When that happened the classroom descended into chaos as the other students realized there will be no consequence for their misbehavior.

At least half of the students spend their day playing video games or watching movies on their school issued computers. They literally do nothing all day. You would think the boys were the majority of the problem students but in reality it's the girls who are the most disrespectful and disruptive. And this is in middle school. High school is even worse. They all have cell phones and pop in their ear buds as soon as they leave their house. I've had to smack on a students desk to get their attention because their music was so loud they couldn't hear me speaking from 2 feet away.

Who I feel sorry for are the 50% of students who come to school to actually learn. They have to put up with these disruptive students in every classroom, in the hallways, bathrooms, cafeteria, and school bus. IMO the only thing that will solve the problems we have in our nations public schools is to permanently expel 10-30% of the students currently in our schools.

I always get the same response to this idea ... "but if you did that they would be out on the streets committing crimes". Well guess what, they're out there on the street after school committing crimes now. Except now they spend their days making public school a living hell for teachers, administrators, and especially for their fellow students trying to get an education.

 

"Republican NCLB"? ... More dems voted for it than pubs (197-185) ... only 10 dems voted against it while 34 pubs voted against it.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2001/h145

It was endorsed by the "Republican Controlled" NEA ... yeah, it's the Republicans all by themselves pushing this on our schools.

What's this ... Democrat President 0bama signing a NCLB rewrite ... couldn't be ... after all the pubs pushed this all by themselves.

I certainly don't exempt the pubs from blame here however you leftys who think this was done by the pubs alone are living in a fantasy world.

 

As a Conservative within our school system you couldn't be more wrong. It's the leftys "proselytizing students" with everything from MMGW, acceptance of sexual deviants, and creative US history. Our schools are dominated by leftys who make it their mission in life to "proselytize students" with their lefty agenda.

Perhaps this video will help jar a few of your memory cells ... "Barack Hussein 0bama ... mmm mmm mmm"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3TKMKbifgQ

 

They've been making changes to NCLB while you've been complaining they aren't doing anything.

 

Everyone gets a gold star

 

If you are worried about your tax dollars why would you want them to remain in school instead of graduating?