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  1. Ninian

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    Am I spotting you using antisemit rhetorics, herr Litwin?
     
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    Then you never heard the recording between Nuland and Ambassador Pyatt saying that Klitchko should not go into the government and that Yats is the man? I believe the conversation took place while Yanukovich was still president.


     
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    The US doesn't supply the terrorists directly, but it supplies the so called moderates, and they then join up with the terrorists and take all their goodies with them.

    As for my information about the genocide of Christians in Syria, it's coming directly from the Churches in Syria... and you know something, I believe them a lot more than the MSM.
     
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    Kidnapping IS a crime, but polygamy is not. I said that polygamous marriages are not legit. If, in day of marriage, the bride or groom still were in other registered marriage, the marriage between them is not legit. Nothing - literally nothing - stops girl, or her family, or their freinds - reporting the issue. Nothing stops any of them from divorse. If citizens of Chechen republic are reluctant to do so - I can't force them. They have own police, courts and, most inportantly, brains - and can decide for themselves, then can appeal to higher court, to make incident a federal issue - if they are not doing that - I cannot force them.

    For laws to work - people should respect them, follow them and rely on them. I cannot affect the issue, if people will be staying silent - legally without a report there is no way for me to be even sure, that anything is wrong with this marriage, as well as it is illegal to, say, spy on people to find out if the marriage is fine, or not. That would be a crime, that can be reported - as much as can be reported threats of hurting property or health. Can be, and shoud be - but if they not, like it or not - nothing can be done. One cannot violate the law just because they don't trust it, as I said - society would collapse, if we start spying on people and hurting people and killing people just because we suspect something. Understood?
     
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    Again, I repeat:
    Polygamy on it's own - is not a crime, but this tradition, albeit normal from Quran's point of view, is not approved by modern society. The lack of approval does not makes this tradition 'evil', it is just different from what we are used to. So yes, people have right to argue about it, and be proposing to legalise it. Personally I cannot even say I disapprove it so much, it has it's benefits - as long as it will be equal polygamy for both sexes.
     
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    "you using antisemit rhetorics,?" so you are as a Muscovite an expert on this
    "A pogrom is a violent riot aimed at the massacre or persecution of an ethnic or religious group, particularly one aimed at Jews. The term originally entered the English language in order to describe 19th and 20th century attacks on Jews in the Russian Empire (mostly within the Pale of Settlement, what would become Ukraine, Belarus and Poland). Similar attacks against Jews at other times and places also became retrospectively known as pogroms. The word is now also sometimes used to describe publicly sanctioned purgative attacks against non-Jewish ethnic or religious groups."

    "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Russian: Протоколы сионских мудрецов) or The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion is an antisemitic fabricated text purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination. The forgery was first published in Russia in 1903, translated into multiple languages, and disseminated internationally in the early part of the 20th century. According to the claims made by some of its publishers, the Protocols are the minutes of a late 19th-century meeting where Jewish leaders discussed their goal of global Jewish hegemony by subverting the morals of Gentiles, and by controlling the press and the world's economies."

    my "rhetorics" simply named the fact that Caucasians muslims excluded the Muscovite elites, which´ll never allow them in , that's why they hate you Muscovite guys so much, and you for instance will never go to the army
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    "Nothing stops any of them from divorse." LOL, so she can live this old pedophile and her kidnapper when she wants? and Chechen traditions, and his "honor" allow it, right?
     
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    Νο, pane, I am expert on finding out hypocrites, cooking pasta, digital drawing and, a little bit, antient history. But when I see somebody sayind my government consists of jews, and saying this in negative tone - oi vei, my antisemit sence starts tingling. Be careful, pane, I believe that antisemitism is not welcome on that forum.

    As for me not going in the army - sweetcheeks, there a bit different reson for that - not that I generally think that conscript army - or any army - is a normal thing.

    By the way, I wonder... If you'll insult muslims - will it be valid cause for a report?
     
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    Right, because traditions and honor are below the Federal Law. This is how federation works. But if people reluctant to use the laws that they have at their disposal do defend their interests - it is their peroblem, that they should solve. They, themselves, elected a parlament for Chechen republic, that have approved Kadyrov as republic's president in Chechen republic. If they dislike that decidion - they are welcome to solve this through democracy. They also welcome to solve it through any sort of traditional laws, even commit a murder of the groom, or republic's president - but it will be a crime, punishable by 8 to 14 years in jail or penal colony - depending on severity of the crime. But they do have that option.
     
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    "elected a parlament for Chechen republic," LOL, are you already drunk ? LOL stop with jokes i watch the thriller

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    A top Chechen lawmaker promised Wednesday that authorities could drum up 120 percent of the vote for Russian Prime Minister's United Russia party -- a jump from the 99 percent in 2007.

    "If United Russia needs to obtain during the elections 115-120 percent of the votes, we can guarantee this result," Chechen parliament president Dukuvakha Abdurakhmanov said, according to Russia's RBK news agency."

    "Crimea's case, there were clear ballot boxes and unfolded ballots combined with armed Russian troops at polling stations. That is voter intimidation, a very common sign of rigging elections everywhere. There were also several several other signs; ridiculously high numbers(99% of Crimeans in support, including 107% of Sevastopolans)"

    "Putin gets 107% of the vote in Chechnya!

    You can always tell how popular abusive dictators are by what percentage of the population votes for them. Anything above 90%, and you've got a vote-rigging dictator. Saddam Hussein, for example, use to win 99% of the Iraqi vote.

    With all ballots counted, it appears that Russian President Vladimir Putin actually won 107% of the votes at one precinct in Chechnya, of all places (the number of people reported to have voted for Putin was higher than the number who voted)." http://www.newser.com/story/141159/in-chechnya-107-turnout-for-putin.html
     
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    Lots of words, barely readable mixture of "quotes" and bold letters, with no links to sources, no proofs, no nothing.

    And again, if people think elections in their republic rigged - they are welcome to say about it. Silent people, sitting on their asses, change nothing. And it is their own problem, if they are not complaining, if they have issues with their republic's government.
     
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    jews, and saying this in negative tone.... If you'll insult muslims" , can you decide who i insulted ? for new you sound like lifenews.ru where everyone who against your juchi project are "fascists"

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    "if people think elections in their republic rigged - they are welcome to say about it" i asked you stop with the jokes, say in center of Grozny? LOL
     
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    "
    The Family A film about Ramzan Kadyrov, whom Putin calls a son Open Russia Eng sub"
     
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    Decide? I am not deciding - I am just watching you. To make sure, you will always be standing for the democratic values, liberty and just laws. As you should.
     
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    Wherever it will be necessary to say, in center of Grozny included.
     
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    "necessary to say, in center of Grozny included." with suicide note or without ? have you seen the nemtsov documentary about kadyrov?
     
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    Without people's own effort democracy does not works. Nobody said, that having right to make decidions will be safe. Life is generally a dangerous thing, considering we may even die at the very birth. Nothing is ever safe, so yes - if needed, individual is to take that risk, or to come up with effective alternative. Accepting abuse - if there is abuse - is not a way to change anything. We make wolrd around us, ourselves - nobody is going to do it for us, not for sake of our interests, at least.
     
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    From what I noticed, Kadyrov's the one that defers to Vladimir Putin and not the other way around. Once when Putin was giving a major speech a few years back, there was a massive attack in Chechnya. Kadyrov was not offered help by Putin since it would have have appeared that he did not think him competent of handling it alone. Kadyrov did lose some men, but true to the customs in that part of the world, Kadyrov apologized to Putin for disturbing him on such an important day.
     
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    They all have very contented smiles, I think no one is coerced and forced, and of course no dowry being paid. ;)
     
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    Lol..not much different from Mormons men having 13 wives average age of 16.
     
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    Wouldn't surprise me if she's beaten the crap out if on a regular basis, but he may be filthy rich!
     
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    Good grief.. not that silly crap again.
     
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    "Silent".....hmmm...better start more protests in Russia, by the looks of it Putin will win next election with about 112% turnout.
     

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