Temperature hits 49.3 C (120.7F)

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The sun.
     
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    Yeah but you're thinking it.
     
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    I do know the difference between weather and climate
     
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    And what is causing the sun to heat the ocean more now than i5 has in the past?
     
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    That depends on cloud cover.
     
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    And what causes cloud cover?
     
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    On the equator, clouds form at the beginning of the day and dissipate at the end and it is the most humid area. A natural temperature control. That is why there is a small difference between night and day temperatures. Over deserts such as those created by Hadley Cells, with little humidity in the air the surface heats more and more heat is lost to space at night, thereby; the great difference between day and night temperature. Over the poles there is little heat gain but the oceans and air currents transport the heat to the poles where it is readily lost to space. There was one day captured from space where there was no cloud cover worldwide.

    CO2 does not cause cloud cover and cloud formation is little understood and impossible to model in the context of global warming. A debate rages on that increased cosmic rays help produce more clouds and it has been proven in experimentation that they do. Before it was thought only hydrocholoric acid was the nucleic trigger for white clouds. Now that the sun is moving into a very quite period with weaker magnetic fields it is surmised that more cosmic rays will penetrate earth. That is why solar scientists are predicting coming cooling along with the low activity that produces less energy.
     
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    It's not heating it up more than the past.

    You realize that the Earth was much hotter in the past yeah?

    Somehow human beings managed to survive and evolve when the CO2 PPM was around 6k.

    All extinction periods, outside impact events, happened when the earth turned into a giant ice cube and NOT when it was 22 degrees C hotter on average.
     
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    Animals (including proto humans) had centuries if not longer to adapt vs. the decades we have this time. Using geological data to interpret real time events will inherently lead to faulty results.
    https://climateknowledgeportal.worldbank.org/

    A good data base.
     
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    Right.

    We can't keep up with a 1.4 F degree increase over the span of 100 years.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We can and do...as indicated by the fact you just posted that.
     
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    Exactly.

    So if we can evolve when the temp is 22 CELCIUS higher and CO2 is 6000 PPM, I think we can handle 1.4 degrees F every 100 years.

    At least until the next ice age rolls around and kills everything.
     
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    Evolution has nothing to do with this as the time frames do not allow for it. We have been using technology to adjust societally but, that has limitations both demographically and logistically and will not be sufficient in time. Climate refugees are already moving as required but so far without undue violence or serious problem....that will soon enough change.
     
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    You don't even know what the ocean temperature was in the past. You probably don't realize it is measured in joules and not degrees. BTW, which ocean, and which part of the ocean?
     
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