Ten Killed in Pittsburgh Synagogue Shooting; Gunman Yelled 'All Jews Must Die'

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  1. HumbledPi

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    There's language used today that's intended to persuade the minds of people on both sides. The rhetoric could either be good for the country as a whole or it could be bad. Ordinarily, we wouldn't expect our president to put forward ideologies and platforms that would be detrimental to this nation, but it happens every day with Trump. Who knows what the long term effects are going to be, we can only judge those effects by statistics. There are new statistics complied by the Anti-Defamation League which show a dramatic rise in anti-Semitic incidents in the United States.

    For years, anti-Semitic incidents were on the decline in the United States. Then came the 2016 presidential election. Since then, a meteoric rise of 34% in 2015-2016 and an astounding 57% increase in 2016-2017 according to the Anti-Defamation League. That's the single largest surge the ADL has ever seen since they began tracking it. Take it as you wish, but to me it's pretty obvious that racial and anti-Semitic hatred is on the rise and there's no doubt that political rhetoric is to blame. Take Rep. Steve King for instance. He was unapologetic for re-tweeting messages from a known Nazi sympathizer. A Trump political ad specifically targets what he calls "global special interests" as images of Jewish George Soros is shown in the video, clearly implying that Jews are the 'elite' and the 'global special interests'.

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    So even if a Nazi like here ... and Nazis are undeniably known to be radical righties ... commit a shameful crime, then are you still cursing the lefties?
    You really can not be serious .
     
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    The disingenuous of the Left. Dare criticize a Black and they think you are only criticizing them because of their skin color and are thereby a racist. Criticize Soro's who happens to be Jewish and now you are anti-Semitic. Of course these rules don't apply to the Left, no rules apply to them.
     
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    I ... as a foreigner ... who about. this idiotic US lefty vs.. righty "war" can only laugh ... see it in consideration of all the utterances in this forum rather like this:

    The righties do not tire of abusing the lefties for all sorts of things and also denigrating them. If there is protest sid where it is rough, then again on the evil lefty / liberal fraction beat!

    But woe if then a righty time is evil as here in this shameful act! Then it is downplayed and the facts twisted so that this right extreme Nazi in the end is even a bad lefty and libaral or the lefties are guilty for thisNazi crime act! That's just ridiculous!

    I laughed still incredibly last year at the Terror Act in Charlottesville, where a Nazi drove by car into a crowd.
    If a Muslim does that, without any doubt, it can only be a Terror Act! If it was done by a lefty ANTIFA etc., then it can only be a bad terror act too. But what was the reaction of the righties here? Terror Act? Rather likely that it was an accident or the guy was mentally ill or the crowd provoked the guy ... but a terro act? No! his righty behavior is simply ridiculous!
     
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    It depends what you criticise him for. If you criticise him for funding certain programmes and initiatives then that's one thing. If instead you claim that he's part of some vast (((conspiracy))) then that's a horse of an entirely different colour. IMO too much of the right-wing vitriol against falls into that latter category.
     
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    I'm pretty sure it's been proven Soro's funds various left wing groups. There's nothing conspiratorial about that.
    https://capitalresearch.org/article...est-in-the-left-wing-of-the-democratic-party/
     
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    You only see and hear only what you want to. This viewpoint obviously went through some filter to get to the result you wanted.
     
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    No ... rather you have a filter in use as it looks obvious!
    I inform myself broadly from left to right and do not believe the BS of the media and sources of information I want to believe ... as you seem to do!
    Otherwise you would be able to deliver factual counter-arguments, eh?
     
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    You may call him a "Nazi" and "Right Wing" but in fact Robert Bowers only did what Leftists have been doing in the US since the 1960's when Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers were raising hell. Of course they later became friends of Obama and received sinecures in left wing academia.

    Bowers is reported to have hated Donald Trump and the Jews within his immediate family (including his grandchildren), which hardly makes him 'right wing' and aligns him closer to Democrats, those same Democrats who boycotted the opening of the new US Embassy in Jerusalem and treated Nehatanyu with great discourtesy on his visit to DC.

    The National Socialists in America, who now are becoming known as The Democratic Socialist Party have, through groups like ANTIFA, BLM, etc., taken on the tendencies of the Nazi Party in 1930's Germany and being encouraged to do so by their leaders.

    The violence coming from the Left will continue after the midterm elections, no matter who wins.
     
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    The world does not turn to German media when searching for accuracy in the news.
     
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    Oh? and yours didnt? nice projector ya got there.
     
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    Damn facts can be so annoying when demonizing the opposition. So I'm sure you will ignore them.

    https://www.cato.org/blog/terrorism-deaths-ideology-charlottesville-anomaly

     
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    You want to work them over in case they aren't peaceful types.
     
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    Well, now, that excuses everything. :roflol:
     
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    You're excusing mass murder???
     
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    Trump's "friends" are leftwingers...

    [​IMG]

    Uh huh.
     
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    Is that intended as debate?
     
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    Facts provided to support the opinion rendered by the cato institute - that bastion of liberal progressives.

    nice dodge tho.
     
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    Please don't tell me he was blue-lighted to hospital to have his life saved? [​IMG] :wall:
     
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    What are you babbling about?

    You are spouting nonsense
     
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    He failed to provide the relevant fact.

    Physical attacks, of which there were 19 in 2017, actually fell compared to 2016, which saw 36.
    https://www.newsweek.com/us-anti-semitic-incidents-57-2017-821549

    ACTUAL violence against jews fell in the first year of the Trump administration in the US while it rose in Europe. Anti Semitic graffiti and vandalism was on the rise in the US in 2017.
     
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    Your ignorance is really breathtaking!
    Since a clear and unquestionable right wing bastard makes this ... actually terrorist attack on a synagogue and you can not stop blaming the lefties anyway and looking for any stupid connections!
     
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    What matters to Leftists is that this guy not be called a Leftist, despite all his history.

    The guy hates Donald Trump (who has a Jewish family), hates the US Embassy move to Jerusalem, and hates Israel - which Donald Trump supports more than any President since Ronald Reagan. The left has been so propagandized that no matter what the crime anywhere it must be the 'Right Wing" that is guilty. We can see how Leftists and their leaders are promoting confrontation and violence in the USA and you still think the consequences of this are 'right wing'? That's nonsense.
     

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