Tens of thousands of Saudis are tweeting their support for Trump

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  1. Space_Time

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    This is obviously astroturfing. There probably aren't really that many people tweeting this. But will this help the ME situation?

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/02/06/tens-of-thousands-saudis-tweet-support-trump/21708094/

    Tens of thousands of Saudis are tweeting their support for Trump
    Vocativ
    GILAD SHILOACH
    Feb 6th 2017 11:50AM
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    In what appears to be a concerted campaign out of Saudi Arabia, tens of thousands of Saudis are tweeting their support of U.S. President Donald Trump and his aggressive rhetoric against Iran, the other main power in the region that is challenging Riyadh for dominance.

    Following Trump's tweets after Tehran tested a ballistic missile last week, the president's national security adviser Michael Flynn followed with a statement from the White House criticizing President Obama's administration for failing to "respond adequately to Tehran's malign actions," and warning that the new administration was putting Iran "on notice."

    Saudis tweet their support to President Trump

    سنوسي عبيد @3beds196629
    #TrumpStopsIranianTerrorism TRUMP knows who the bad guys are and already targeted them (Iran ) thanks for that Trump
    3:39 PM - 5 Feb 2017
    Retweets likes

    Last week, those words thrilled many Sunni Arabs in the region who fear Iran's return to the international community. But this week, Saudi propagandists appear to have engineered a Twitter campaign to boost support for Trump in an apparent attempt to influence the new president.
    Vocativ found the hashtags #TrumpStopsIranianTerrorism and #TrumpWarnsIranianTerrorism have appeared over 80,000 times since Saturday, and likely created in accounts of Saudi influencers who tweeted "Trump is the best leader in the world" and thanked Trump for his statements against the Iranian regime. Vocativ found that the vast majority of the tweets using these hashtags came from Saudi Arabia and that the most retweeted posts came from leading pro-Saudi accounts and influential journalists affiliated with the monarchy.
    Tweets posted alongside the hashtags included portrayals of Trump as Captain America, James Bond or a knight in shining armor, standing atop a military tank. In one image Trump is carrying a bald eagle over his shoulder. "There is no Obama anymore," the caption read. Others show Trump standing beside King Salman and that the two leaders are trying "to protect the whole world."
     
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    Margot2 Banned

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    That's a lot of tweets.
     
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    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    With look on this bloody Sharia Regime in Riad ... are Saudis allowed to tweet against Trump?
     
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    Margot2 Banned

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    Of course they could.
     
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    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    If you say it ...

    I have some serious doubts, but who knows. Maybe as usual in Saudi Arabia only men are allowed to do and no woman without allowance of her husband, brother, father etc. in this so highly democratic country.
     
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    Women in Arabia have their own money, their own banks and more businesses than men. 67% of university students are women.
     
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    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Yeah ... and not being allowed to drive a car alone and if being raped they are automatically guilty too.

    Some truth about KSA?

    There are head-cutters not only among the Islamic terror groups such as the Islamic state or al-Nusra. As Islamic fundamentalists, this also includes the Wahhabi Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, a close ally of the West. Because Saudi Arabia is geopolitically important as a regional power against Iran and is not only supplying oil, but is also a good weapon buyer, the Western democracies are happy to ignore it.


    The Islamic state is certainly quicker when it comes to beheading, which makes it one of its characteristics and celebrates publicly through videos. Saudi Arabia, whose legislation is well-islamistically subjected to Sharia, carried out this capital punishment for the 69th time on 19.11.2015 in Islamic fashion. A man was beheaded, who, as the media emphasized, tried to escape in women's cloaks , After he had shot a soldier and a policeman. The executed man had been arrested - from the religious police, which enjoys many freedoms in Saudi Arabia and terrorized people - because he was accused of third-party to have used drug "Kat". He was beaten by them and put in a vehicle with the soldier and the religious policeman. Apparently, he had not been searched, but was able to take out a pistol and shoot the two guards. Possibly, he could snatch the gun from his guards. The story is a little confused. Qarni should then have stolen the keys, then chew the drug "Kat" and hide in women's clothes. This is practical, because you can only see the eyes, because all women must be completely veiled. However, he seems to have been discovered and re-arrested.

    Saudi Arabia also faces the death penalty against the opposition. This year, five oppositionists have been condemned to death, including the Shia activist and clergyman Imam Nimr al-Nimr. This had, according to Human Wrights Watch, only peaceful protests advocated ... but Shiite and then also being opposition = a suicidal combination in KSA.

    While the Western states, above all the USA and Germany, like to strategically uphold their alleged values against others like Russia! It are precisely these values, such as democracy, human rights, and law which then suddenly are uninteresting at economic interesting and / or friendly states. Strategically, these states are also involved in the struggle against the Islamic state, whose culture, like other Islamic extremists, has first brought forth and is supported by them ... officially, unofficially from the state side, but also from the business and the private sector.
     
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    Bedouin women drive.

    Women who follow the cultural mores are NEVER punished for rape, but the rapist gets the death penalty.

    The Mutaween have NO police power.

    NO link? I wonder why?
     
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    It is in change, but still ins dispute and cause often legal problems for women... still!

    I'm now very much amazed ... really! YOU, right YOU who declared so often that the Muslims are so behind us with their violent culture and crazy morale defends now the same culture suddenly?

    Wake up! Link for an example case of 2007...

    Rape victim sentenced to 200 lashes and 6 month jail!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/nov/17/saudiarabia.international ... and many more medias at them!


    What???

    Reality:

    The Mutaween in Saudi Arabia are tasked with enforcing Sharia as defined by the government, specifically by the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (CPVPV). The Mutaween of the CPVPV consists of “more than 3,500 officers in addition to thousands of volunteers...often accompanied by a police escort. They have the power to arrest unrelated males and females caught socializing, anyone engaged in homosexual behavior or prostitution; to enforce Islamic dress-codes, and store closures during the prayer time. They enforced Muslim dietary laws, prohibited the consumption or sale of alcoholic beverages and pork, and seized banned consumer products and media regarded as anti-Islamic (such as CDs/DVDs of various Western musical groups, television shows and film which has material contrary to Sharia law or Islam itself). Additionally, they actively prevented the practice or proselytizing of other religions within Saudi Arabia, where they are banned.
    In April 2016 however, the Saudi Arabian cabinet removed the Mutaween power to arrest by their own and so limiting them merely to the role of reporting violators and call police to arrest with what the Mutaween worked since ever hand in hand. So on first view a more liberal handling, but by fact nothing has changed to before!


    For what? Obviously things which are no hidden things and a million times reported and well documented? I wonder why you come with this lame argument instead opening eyes and use simply google, yahoo etc. to find out truth!
     
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    Saudi Arabia has a very low incidence of rape, murder, carjacking and burglary.
     
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    And this reasons their bloody regime to be OK?
     
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    Mandelus, Margot2, et al,

    The scope and nature of a Regime is heavy influenced by the culture.

    (COMMENT)

    The more strict a culture is, the less activity outside the accepted norm.

    We need more laws, not fewer, to protect our freedoms

    Gillian Triggs Tuesday 21 January 2014


    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
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    Agreed ...
    But what is not correct: All these bad things are done in Iran more or less too. Iran was blamed by anyone like mad to be evil then, but when Saudis do not better as shown and proofed, no one cares, because important friend.
    Of course, I live in no dream world and know about the realities. But this does not improve this hypocrisy in the behavior of the USA and the "West".
     
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    For one thing the Saudis have a very homogenous society.....

    - - - Updated - - -

    Iran wants a foothold on the Arabian peninsula, control of access to the Indian Ocean and Mecca.

    Iran doesn't have anything Arabia wants.
     
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    Because why? Anything what hurts it will end badly and no matter how reasonable this "anything" is. So by fact it is earned by brutal dictatorship.


    Aside point that the by rich Saudis and other Arabs financed ISIS will kill any Shiite on this planet ... aside point that they fought Iran since Khomeini raised power as the evil thing ... aside fact that Shiite outside Iran were mostly depressed by Sunni ... aside fact that Iran is helping other Shiite in Yemen and helping a long time ally in Syria and helping Shiite in Afghanistan who are victims of everyone fighting in this country.

    in contrary ... who backed again the Kurdish Rebels and non-Sunni opposition in Iran with money during the Iraq-Iran War of the 1980's? Mmmh ... better not to answer!
     
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    Saudi Arabia is a benevolent monarchy with Majlis......

    Most Kurds are Sunni.. and KSA doesn't fund ISIS. Why are you eating pablum?
     
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    Are you really so brain washed to believe this nonsense?
    They are benevolent to their people to hold internal peace and to prevent any serious opposition out of political, economical or social unrest. In short ... hold your complete population rich enough and no one will be unhappy about the other things!

    So Iranian accusing is only nonsense and unreasoned? Why, because Iran tells it = automatically not true?
     
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    Iran has a long an impressive history up until about 1915.. and they have had nothing but trouble ever sense.. Part of their problem with KSA may be at its heart simple envy.

    Its strictly a one-way dead. Iran dogs Saudi Arabia and has as long as I can remember.
     
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    Really? And now ignorant too?

    Western countries tried to rule Iran since long and after oil became an important economic facture, this was done more.
    Forgetting the coup against the democratic elected Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953 done by CIA and where after the Shah was implemented again and backed by USA via CIA? A brutal Shah regime which depressed any opposition, brutally beaten by CIA backed Iranian services.
    And then came Khamenei and because no friend of the USA due to their heavy support of bloody Shah regime, the CIA had nothing better to do as to start a new counter coup to kill the Mullahs and to bring back the Shah in power. Dine from where? US embassy! Any wondering why the embassy was stormed?
     
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    Actually, I was in Iran in 1953.. so yes I know about the coup and the Mossadeeg.. Doesn't change the fact that Iran could be a prosperous power house and has instead chosen to be a pariah.
     
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    Do you accept the wahabbi perspective on the role of women in society?

    The religious establishment is pretty damn clear on what women can and can't do, and regardless of the underlying reality, the superficial appearance of that is rather aggressively enforced, isn't it?
     
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    Its a class thing. Guardian rules are not accepted by the middle class who live in urban areas.

    Only 40% of Saudis are Wahhabis.. and most of them are friendly towards Americans.
     
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    I do believe that there will be positive results from this........
    Muslims tend to respect strong and decisive leadership

    Trump immigration policy and Islamic restoration...
     

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