Testimonies from people conceived in rape

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    :) Are "women in big cities" a specific breed of women??

    Are there other breeds of women called "women who live in mid-sized towns" ?


    How do they vary?


    And normal women don't hallucinate about spirits that go around impregnating women....and in the fairy tale, Joseph probably didn't believe it either..:)
     
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  2. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me ask you, do you believe that applies to abortion?

    Would you force a 14-year-old female to have an abortion?

    Can she consent to abortion but not to sex?
     
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  3. JakeStarkey

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    Your sound confused, kazenatsu.

    I child cannot give moral or legal consent to sex.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You still have not answered the question.
    Is that because it would make your beliefs look inconsistent?

    Do you believe a child can consent to abortion, but not to sex?
     
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  5. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    That your question is confused is your problem not mine.

    For the record: abortions are moral because fetuses are not unborn children.
     
  6. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see, so you'd rather avoid that uncomfortable question.
     
  7. JakeStarkey

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    It is you avoiding the truth.
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    Like YOU avoided the questions in Post # 26 ? Like that????
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe my question is more relevant to the topic of this thread than the issue you brought up.
     
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    :) Nice sidestep....I give it a 10 !!!
     
  11. JakeStarkey

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    "Testimonies from people conceived in rape"

    without rape they would not exist... ask them if they support rape...

    just cause they would not exist if rape did not exist, doesn't mean they support it.. same goes with forcing rape victims to have their rapists babies

    forcing a women to have her rapists baby is wrong.... if she chooses to do so that is up to her
     
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    yeah, I do not think anyone would approve of a God getting a child pregnant nowadays..... or buy that excuse for why a child got Pregnant
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not because they would not exist, it's because they would have been killed in their mother's wombs.

    Are you telling me it wouldn't have mattered if someone killed you as a small child?
    That from your perspective it would be inconsequential because the current 'you' would have never existed?

    How about as a baby before you could talk. Or sucking your thumb in your mother's womb. Where's the cut-off point when you'd actually care?
     
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    Fetuses in the womb are not babies or small children, never have been, never will be under law.
     
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    "small child", "baby before you could talk", ...nothing to do with abortion.
     
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    if someone would of prevented the rape they would not exist either, but were not gonna support rape because of that, nor will we support the forcing of rape victims to have their rapists babies
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one is suggesting drawing the line before conception.

    Trying to compare sperm to fetuses that have already begun development is a little disingenuous.
     
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    So you believe that since these born people are glad they're alive then women's rights should be destroyed and women should be FORCED (like rapists use FORCE) to have their rapist's babies.


    ....can you explain the "logic" in that?

    And what about those who are glad they were aborted ??


    And, gee, I'm so NOT surprised that these people didn't give a damn what their mothers went through...are they all buddy wuddy with "DADDY" your, and their, hero???
     
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    what they are suggesting is we force rape victims to have their rapists baby, that is wrong

    trying to compare a week old fetus to a baby is a little disingenuous.
     
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    How long does a rape victim need to make up her mind?
     
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    I recommend putting the plan B in all rape kits, as that would reduce the need of an abortion, would you support that?

    but is usually about 1-12 weeks, assuming she was not held hostage or in critical care - also depends on the delays some states make them go through and when she can afford it - be nice if she could get assistance from the government if she could not afford
     
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    Maybe a loan she would have to pay back.
     
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    I don't suppose you'll vouchsafe us a verbatim quote to that effect.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are pro-choicers so opposed to letting her see the ultrasound then?
     

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