Texas considering death penalty for abortions

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  1. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Worried about Sharia Law? Texas says "hold my beer". They were seriously considering a measure that is practiced in only the most barbaric societies.

    If men could get pregnant abortions would be 2 for $19.95 at Walmart with a 30 minute service guarantee and double points.

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    Never hold up. Lots of things get introduced in committee that never see the light of day. That's why the process in most states, if not all, typically requires legislation to originate in committee before being introduced to the general legislature.

    There are ways to get around that by using "gut and replace" scams some legislative bodies have used. The California Legislature has passed many of their most draconian progressive legislation that way, but I don't see something like this being done that way.

    Regardless, can't see how they can get around the SCOTUS precedent established in R v W.
     
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    We are in the seanon of extreme when it comes to abortion

    The liberal argument for killing babies after they have been born is pretty extreme also
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    anyone killing babies or children is arrested in the UK and I do not believe they are not as you are insinuating in the US?
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are they Christian Zionists or should I say The Christian Right? I know that is one of their intentions. They have been quite successful in Africa in getting people to move towards very severe punishments for people being gay but not so successful in getting them to put in the death sentence for abortion as people understand the reasons for it.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We are on an Internet forum where people understand English You suggested
    in the US people were allowed to kill babies.
    I do not believe you.
     
  7. Reality

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    Its a stunt.

    They just passed a bill raising the smoking age to 21 too.

    Damn busy bodies
     
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    It may be a stunt now but it will be moving you closer to it. Now you are not astonished, you claim it is a stunt. Next people will start to think it is a bit harsh and then yes, why not, they take a life so it is right they lose their life. I do seem to remember that one of the strongest arguments in the UK for bringing legal abortion in was to save women's lives. ;)
     
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    Things like this is why I would never call myself a Republican, even though I'm generally conservative.

    They do need to fux the penal code nationwide though. If a fetus isnt a person in the case of an abortion, they still arent in the case of murder.


    Also, the 'father' should have equal rights to abortion that women have.
     
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    Roe v wade isnt going anywhere this would breach that it's not going anywhere it's a stunt.
     
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    Agreed, 100%. I don't know why they even try to pull this nonsense.
     
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    What would be the point of doing a 'stunt' on something like this? Who are the people making this decision?
     
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    The point is that they want to scare doctors into believing they are at risk for being charged with murder sometime in the future if they perform abortions. Stupid thing about that is it just forces abortions into back alleys with untrained medical personnel and puts the mothers at risk. Of course, wealthy women will just go out of state, so this is really just targeting the poor.

    If they can't overturn Roe v. Wade, they'll run the edges.
     
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    There is something viscerally primitive about the TX legislators who are promoting this violation of the Constitutional Rights of Women.

    There is not even a PRETENSE of trying to make it Constitutional. If it STIPULATES the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Constitution with the inclusion of this wording;

    There is no doubt that the UNQUALIFIED pretenders on the SCOTUS appointed by the BLOTUS would uphold this bill if it ever reached them. However Roberts knows that "his court" already has an abysmal track record when it comes unconstitutional decisions. On top of that he would be opening the door to allowing all kinds of state laws that defy the Federal Constitution if he allowed this precedent to pass.

    So even if the state of TX does pass and sign this bill it will be immediately challenged and be thrown out by the SCOTUS.
     
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    In some places ... if there is a botched abortion and the baby is alive, it’s ok to give it no medical care, food, water, and allow it to die.
     
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    Oh really? You think they don't give a 1 hour-old baby food, and that kills it? Get that kid a steak!

    WTF. Hope you didn't chap your cheeks too much pulling that one from your ass.
     
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    Extreme rightwing disinformation fallacy without any shred of credible substantiation.
     
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    The same reason the pubs repealed obamacare like 18 times when they knew it would never pass.
    Its virtue signaling. You realize that opposition to abortion is one of the main threads that unites the factions of the republican party?
     
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    So this is just a way for the GOP to unite the party?

    Put up an abortion bill that the SCOTUS will overturn and then use the appointment of another justice as the whip to drive the party loyalists to the polls?
     
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    I read about this - its disturbing - Christian Sharia on steroids.
     
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    Red Establishment hates essential liberty and the Rule of Law. Same with Blue but it is the right that goes around claiming to be upholders of the founding principles and Constitution.
     
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    If you were an American voter I would bewilling to explain this too you

    But if you were an American - even a liberal - you might already know
     
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    Yeah **** em both with a hose full of venomous snakes I say
     
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    What is there to explain ? Infanticide is illegal in the US.

    What does this have to do with the death penalty for abortion- which they want from conception on.
     
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    No you wouldn't.
    You'd pull some one-off weird example from thine arse and pretend it's some kind of "policy".
    Nobody is going to buy it, foreign or domestic.
     
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