Texas Gov Abbott Toughens Bans on Mask and Vaccine Mandates

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  1. Bob Newhart

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    So nice of you to point out that Biden's no-border policy is a complete failure compared to Canada's closed-border policy.
     
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    On every life measure and freedom Australia rips the US. Never seen so many poor and bedraggled people as in the US.
     
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    I'm glad I'm not living in Russia!

    July 23 — Russia's Labor Ministry and the consumer protection watchdog Rospotrebnadzor issued instructions for employers to ensure 80% immunity among staff through vaccinations and recovery from Covid-19, allowing paid leave for vaccinated employees and suspension without pay for those who refuse to get vaccinated.

    more at link

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/07/31/coronavirus-in-russia-the-latest-news-july-30-a69117

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    Meanwhile, here are quotes from an email I received today from Texas Senator Ted Cruz:

     
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    :roflol:
    No freedom of speech in Australia.

    No freedom to bear arms.

    And obviously no freedom to congregate.
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    What a racist bigoted thing to say.
     
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    1) Freedom of speech? Wrong. The right to political freedom of speech has been derived from out Constitution by the Federal Court (our version of the Supreme Court. I could refer you to the relevant decisions but that would imply you are actually interested in tracking down facts for yourself when you obviously find it easier just to opinionate via an orifice that is not your mouth.

    2) The right to bear arms? Wrong. There are more firearms in Australia now than there were before the ban on automatic/semiautomatic firearms imposed after the Port Arthur Massacre. The type of firearm changed but not the ability to purchase one once the usual procedures were followed.

    FYI we also have the 'right' to request our children participate religious education in public schools. Unlike the US where attempting the same would get you arrested.

    So who is 'freer' no then?

    3) And we are perfectly free to congregate (except during pandemics). Now I grant you that is a (temporary) restriction on our basic rights. But by the same token as a % of the population neither have we killed off nearly as many fellow citizens as the US has done.

    Finally as I noted in another post. By virtually every metric across multiple aggregators Australia is rated as having higher standards of income equity, the rule of law, general freedom, education, health care and superior quality of living. Not by any means perfect by a long shot. But better than the US.

    So, ask yourself. Do you really want to continue walking off the plank you've put yourself on or are you going to get back in your box and stick to your comfort zone. You know - worrying about all 'the commies, illegal aliens and dems etc etc' two are threatening to take your guns away.'
     
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    Coming into the airports for the first time was a shock. So many poor people below the poverty line in the US.
     
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    All that stuff costs money and takes up space. Many boaters would likely dispense with
    it all 'cos the chances of using it are realistically remote. But when it does happen and
    there's a major three day search and rescue costing millions of dollars - people start
    griping about the tax payers forking out for idiots. So we have this rule.
    If fact we have these rules for stop signs, traffic lights, seat belts, false advertising, fake
    medicine, safety barriers, medical certificates etc.. It's called public health and it works
    fine for us. Save lives and lots of money.
     
  9. Bob Newhart

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    :yawn: Someone doesn't know anything at all about what freedom of speech is. The Racial Discrimination Act 1975
    You don't have freedom of speech in your country. You don't know what freedom of spee
    ch is. You're like a fish trying to describe an Elephant.
    You admitted you don't have the right to bear arms.
    Really?! So, you are able to educate children in class that black people should be called "Raisin Heads" (Mohammed - Islam) or the homosexuals should be stoned to death? No? I get the feeling that this 'right' you speak of is more of a reason for the government to meddle in religion.

    https://www.theguardian.com/austral...-review-findings-but-will-scrutinise-material

    So, I can assume that you have no freedom of religion as well.

    You're projecting what happens in Australia.
    RACIAL AND RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE ACT 2001
    I'm definitely freer - no doubt about that.
    Or whenever your mommy government decides to ground you.
    Has it ended yet?
    Unfortunately, we've had a moronic murderer called Fauci who has been messing up the numbers as well as the response. And then there were Governors in New York and Michigan who wanted to take the opportunity to kill the old people.

    Even with that, there is an old phrase called "live free or die". So, even if the stats were correct, so what.

    I wouldn't be surprised though. You're an Island which enforces its borders. Something which is sadly not the case in the U.S.
    Yep , , , definitely a Marxist.
    If only the Australian government weren't racist bigots - they would allow far more immigrants into their country. As it is, the U.S. seems to be a far more popular destination for immigrants. But I think that this has more to do with the rampant bigotry of Australia than the poor living standards of Australia.
    Ask myself what?
     
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    I think someone just visited the PRC. Did you ask any of them if he was Richard Walters?
     
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    Australia spends millions of dollars and searches three days when someone doesn't have a Band-Aid?
     
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    meaning they should agree with you about what they mean
     
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    Some people don't like you using terms like cultural Marxist because they want to act as though such a thing doesn't exist.

    It's attempts to gaslight and nothing else.
     
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    The RDA? what does that have to do with freedom of speech. FYI the RDA makes it unlawful to discriminate against a person because of his or her race, colour, descent, national origin or ethnic origin, or immigrant status. How does that translate into a restriction on the individuals freedom of speech?

    And all of which means what inside your head exactly?

    And you haven't conceded that if you so much as mention the 'religion' in a US State School you could be subject prosecution. Whereas I on the other hand can still buy a firearm if I prove that:

    A) I'm not a criminal.
    B) I can secure it when its not in my possession; and
    C) I've demonstrated I am competent to handle it by passing a simple course.

    Which is apparently all 'too hard' for the average US citizen.

    Ooh! A five year old news article that (to summarize) says the government will 'review' certain specific religious education curricula in public schools. Well that's rock solid evidence if ever I saw it! :rolleyes: Unfortunately for you guess what? Religious education in schools is still ongoing, no dramatic changes what-so-ever.

    Meanwhile in the US religious education in public schools is ..... Oh yes still illegal.

    And in case it escaped your notice I didn't raise this issue as some iron clad proof that the right religious education somehow made Australia more 'free' than the US. I raised it in response to you stupidly claiming that somehow because citizens in the US had a right to bear arms that made them some 'more' free than than citizens here.

    The point being that different nations have slight variations in the type/number of specific 'rights' accorded to them by their various constitutions & bill of rights etc. What matters (and this is the part that seems to be beyond your ken) is not differences in any one specific right but the collective effect of the ALL rights granted to citizens in the nation concerned. And by that measure Australia matches up quite nicely against the US. Something which repeated studies have confirmed. (Another fact you haven't addressed - I wonder why?}


    As for the above. I have no response because I haven't the faintest idea what it is your trying to prove. With one exception.

    As a % of population Australia's immigration and refugee intake has until quite recently (COVID) been higher than the US - for decades. Fact. So per person we take received more immigrants and take in more refugees than the US does. You were saying?
     
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    You are being disengenuous. We have three day searches for idiots who head
    out on fishing trips and don't return - and there's no radios or beacons on their
    boat.
     
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    There is no Biden "no border policy." Any suggestion this...

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    USA-Mexico Border, El Paso, TX

    ... is "no border" absurd on its face. We could agree that (1) every person in this country should be here legally, and (2) we should take effective measures to reduce the numbers of illegals.
     
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    If you like government dictating private businesses how to run their business, then you like Abbott.

    Me, I prefer private companies right to run their own business without some government critter micromanaging them.

    Ironically Abbott ends up being the Marxist.
     
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    They say "open borders" and they back it up by saying there is a record number of arrests at the border, and they dont even understand the contradiction they present.
     
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    :) :) :)

    I doubt some of them care if they present an argument that makes sense.
     
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    Fewer regulations, but strictly enforced.
     
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    Oh please... the exact opposite is true!

    When evil cultural marxists were forcing businesses to close across the USA... Gov Abbott freed businesses in Texas [which is a very business-friendly state] and allowed them to conduct business as usual.

    But some cultural marxist DEMOCRAT controlled cities/countries were trying to FORCE mask mandates, etc on businesses. This is why Gov Abbott issued the executive order.

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    No, you said:

    He is telling businesses to submit to his will or be punished.

    His government dictates how businesses should operate, and you cheer him on, which makes you and him the cultural marxists.

    What is cultural marxism: "Cultural Marxism is a far-right antisemitic conspiracy theory which claims Western Marxism as the basis of continuing academic and intellectual efforts to subvert Western culture."

    It does not seem that you even understand the meaning of the term, even thought you insert it into every post.
     
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    "Anti-semitism" and "racist" = two cultural marxist word bombs that have been thrown around so much recently they have lost most of their impact.

    Cultural marxism is an "anti-semitic" phrase? WHO KNEW !

    Actually, Karl Marx was a jew... as were over 80% of Russia's first marxist soviet government.

    June 2013

    Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish

    “I thought about something just now: The decision to nationalize this library was made by the first Soviet government, whose composition was 80-85 percent Jewish,” Putin said June 13 during a visit to Moscow’s Jewish Museum and Tolerance Center.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish/


    Ironically... VP Biden also said interesting things about jews around that same time.

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    No, it was a quote from a news article... and I posted it as a quote.

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    Like I said - fish trying to comprehend an Elephant. Try section 18C.
    Same thing - a fish trying to comprehend an elephant.

    What reason do you have to give in order to obtain your obsolete firearms?

    Do you understand the difference between owning obsolete firearms and bearing arms?
    Have i mentioned the fish trying to comprehend an elephant analogy?

    Somehow you think that the government regulating religious education in the public schools is freedom of religion. Yep, you can't understand how government regulating religion is not freedom of religion.
    So, you support the right religious education as oppose to the wrong religions. And you don't see how this is opposes religious freedom?
    So you raised a whataboutism and fell flat on your face.
    Slight variation meaning the lack of certain liberties.
    Spoken like a true Marxist.
    I've addressed all of it. Maybe you should try reading or take classes on how to read.
    A childish way to fail to concede that you've lost.
    As % of population . . . not landmass or contiguous coastline? How arbitrary. However, you won't be able to understand why that is arbitrary.

    Have I mentioned the fish trying to contemplate an elephant analogy?
     

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