Texas Gov Abbott Toughens Bans on Mask and Vaccine Mandates

It depends on the circumstances. Some cars, like Mercedes, have first aid kits. But the govt
doesn't ask every car owner to have one. But in planes and boats they are required. Not all
boats of course, just biggies or those going a long ways away. But all boats must have life
jackets.
And it's not govt necessarily doing this. Public discontent over the rising road toll in America
led to govt mandating seat belts, safer designs, better roads, air bags etc.. Don't even blame
Ralph Nader - he just rode public discontent with his book Unsafe At Any Speed.

 

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With Gov Abbott in control, thank God NYC's vaccine mandate won't be happening in Texas!

Although cultural marxists in Texas are trying to undermine and revoit against Abbott's executive order.


New York becomes first U.S. city to order COVID vaccines for restaurants, gyms

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nyc-require-proof-vaccination-indoor-activities-mayor-2021-08-03/

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OK since I suggested it but you've declined I'll begin by consolidating all my replies:

1) 'Owning', dictionary definition - to legally possess. 'Bearing', dictionary definition - a persons way of standing or moving. Your point?

2) And yet there are bounds on religious freedom even in the US. The right to freely your practice religious belief does not extend to persecuting/injuring/financially penalizing non adherents amongst the citizenry. And sorry but arguments for the principal of religious freedom way predate the American Bill of Rights. Look up Cyrus the Great if you don't believe me. For that matter you have never addressed the original point I was trying to make when I raised the fact that Australian children could receive religious education in public schools and American children couldn't in the first place! (As a counterpoint to your 'right to bear arms' equals 'more freedom' argument.)

And that was that cherry picking one particular civil right over all others a nation s citizens might be entitled to is simply erroneous. But that rather what was important is;
A) the collective total/effect of all rights; and
B) how those rights are interpreted by their respective courts/governments.

My argument is simply that if a nation has 'rights' afforded to its people then ALL those rights are equally important and no one right is better/more important. They either all matter or none do. Which in turn makes all arguments along the lines of 'well in my country I have the right to....' erroneous!

3) Can Americans anywhere? And what does that have to do with religious freedom anyway? Unless you proscribe to the religion of the 'The Great raisin'.

4) Who?

5) Why would it be a net negative (on average/over time)? When has it ever been?

6) No but its every poster's job to clarify or expand upon a comment they have made if someone else requests they do and:
a) the request is made with apparent honest intent;
b) the original poster is sincerely interested in a debate.

7) Then explain why. As per the above. That said also explain how then (by your argument) ALL measurements are not arbitrary. FGS measuring something using any scale or measure or mathematical ratio etc is 'arbitrary'. The measure I used is taught in high schools across the world including the US and used every day in business, government and science. How is the measure I used not relevant?

So then if you want to debate - debate.

 

Nice rant. Unrelated to the post to which you responded.

 

It's got everything to do with the subject. Public health can't be atomised. We can't reject the Covid
vaccine and embrace says the Rubella Measles vaccine, or accept mandatory seat belts or life jackets
for airlines and boats. It's all connected. We all have to do our part, if not for ourselves then for the
people we could infect.

 

As long as we do our part within the science I'm fine with that. Almost everything coming from government has little to do with the science and everything to do with CYA. My wife is an anti vaxxer. She is fearful of every vaccine. I will bet she is not the only one.

 

Memes are great. Why think for ones self when it has already been done for you. This is not an issue of safety; it is one of overreach and abuse of power. No one is preventing you from wearing a mask or consuming Trumps rushed product.

 

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Today FOX TV news showed a video of tents that were set up overnight in a parking lot in McAllen, Texas for the overflow of illegal aliens from a nearby Catholic charity that has been overwhelmed.

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Are you sure about your evolutionary theories? How confident are you that Covid won't be around in 30, 50, or even 500 years? Suppose in 20 years there is a 20% mortality rate variant that is vaccine resistant. How can you be so confident that the vaccine of the day would be better protection against this hypothetical variant, than say, natural immunity acquired from the alpha variant 20 years earlier?

 

Abbott is a bit of marxist himself since he put the government boot on corporations throats and threatens to punish them unless they comply with his demands. Its his way, or .......punishment. We'll see if companies leave TX, as they threaten to leave Florida for the same reason. In Arkansas, the governor did the same thing, but realized how stupid it was and is not trying to overturn it.

 

Now there is a blatant falsehood. Abbott's bans only apply to governments in the state.

 

From the OP. Either the OP is lying, or Abott is going full marxist, and you guys cheer him on

Texas Gov. Abbott threatens fines again against local officials and businesses that enforce mask mandates, vaccine requirements
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/29/texas-gov-abbott-doubles-down-against-covid-health-limits.html

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  • The measure bans government agencies from making individuals get vaccinated or provide proof of vaccination.
  • Abbott incorporated an executive order he first implemented on May 18, which forbade local governments and school districts from issuing mask mandates.
  • The order also emphasizes the removal of all public health limits on Texas businesses, encouraging the use of masks in areas with elevated coronavirus transmission rates.

 

All public and private businesses that receive state funds. You left that out.

 

Keep moving those goal posts. He put his boot on their throats.

Just face it, you are supporting Marxist policies pushed by a person who says he will impose mandates because he doesn't believe in mandates. Yes, this IS a mandate.

 

That's what the order states. You appear to be happy to be fooled and happy not to know the facts.

 

You can do your chicken dance and goal-post dragging to justify marxism, but what I said is factually correct. Governor Abbott put his boot on the throats of corporations and is demanding them to comply or be punished.

 

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Yesterday at Texas Walmart, in the foyer a Walmart employee was giving a new mask to whoever wanted one... it wasn't mandatory.

That's how it should be... personal choice.

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Totally false. You appear to bath in falsehoods.

 

Abbotts marxist bans/mandates might make is highly illegal for Walmart to require masks, but Walmart made it clear they want their customers protected.

Target, Walmart and 5 More Retailers Requiring Masks as Delta Variant Surges
https://www.gobankingrates.com/money/economy/retailers-requiring-masks-as-delta-variant-surges/
Walmart said it will continue to follow the latest CDC guidance, which includes fully vaccinated people wearing masks in public indoor settings in areas of substantial or high transmission, effective immediately, according to a statement.

 

Keep dancing and dragging goal-posts.

 

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I was not referring to the evolution of Covid but that stupid has its own reward

 

It's actually quite embarrassing.

 

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My local Texas Walmart did NOT force me to wear a mask yesterday. But as Scarlett O'Hara said: Tomorrow is another day

Another thing I've been noticing at my local Walmart... for the past month or so the inventory is unusually low. Not as extreme as when the covid psyop first began. But definitely lower with some bare shelves. Not sure if it's related to covid or the million illegal aliens Biden's cultural marxist democrats have invited to cross the border illegally.

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Do you know how to use a dictionary? Does your definition of bearing match the phrase 'bearing arms'?

Private individuals are more than able to persecute and financially penalize those of another religion. Laws against assault and murder are applied equally regardless of religion.

Once again you have no clue what religious freedom is. Cyrus the Great did not have freedom of religion - he actually had the opposite of religious freedom.

I addressed it. It just went right over your head. The Spanish Conquistadors gave free public education of religion to the Native Americans they conquered. Was that religious freedom. No. That is quite the opposite. It's the same for your Australian religious education.

As I've pointed out. I didn't cherry-pick a thing.

You still haven't realized that this is an inconsistent statement.

I'm using current interpretations of the courts.

Once again, you haven't shown yourself to have a single individual right that I do not have.

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Well, now you've stepped in it. You've just called Islam "the religion of 'The Great Raisin'. And I'm pretty sure they'll consider that an insult on their prophet. I've heard they become particularly stabby when that happens.

Since Australian law seems to allude I looked it up for you.
https://education.nsw.gov.au/policy-library/policies/pd-2002-0074

All this religious education you are so proud of requires approval and permission of the government. This is the opposite of religious freedom.

Google, duckduckgo, Bing, yahoo . . . Have you heard of these?

No. It isn't. I guess the moderators might be getting paid, but I don't think even they are.

You refuse to even answer simple yes or no questions. I'm not being difficult - you are.

If someone doesn't put any effort in expanding their horizons, I won't spend time trying to force information down their throat.

Undefined anocronym.

No it isn't

The word I used is arbitrary.

Take a rock star band of 4 people who attracted 30,000 people for a concert and a soloist which attracted 10,000 people for a concert. Well, obviously the band attracted more people and therefore was more popular. But the soloist says "No, that's wrong. 30,000 / 4 = 7,500. And since 7,500 < 10,000, I, the soloist, am more popular."

 

You're anti-vax? Until this moment, I never considered that (and there is no logical explanation for that). Are you anti-vax, full stop or vaccine hesitant about the COVID vaccinations? I know the counterargument to the "rushed" concern is that they went through all the phases (whatever those are). My apologies if that's prying.