Texas has more than double New York's unvaccinated, but fewer COVID deaths

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    tharock220 Well-Known Member

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    Isn't that odd? New York is the most vaccinated state of the top four. Guess COVID is just picking on them.
     
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    New York is in the middle is a “spike” whereas the spike has passed for Texas - is that what you are telling me?
     
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    ~ Because this experiment " vaccine " actually make the patient more susceptible to being infected .. ? :confuse:'
     
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    I didn't ask about testing in New York, I asked about testing statistics for Texas! The amount of testing done impacts on the results obtained. So again, does anyone know?
     
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    Firstly, I didn't ask about testing in New York, I asked about testing statistics for Texas! The amount of testing done impacts on the results obtained. So again, does anyone know?

    Beyond that however New York State is both more highly urbanized than Texas and has a far higher population density per square mile (421 psm vs 109 psm) than Texas! Almost 4 times higher. So you are fooling no-one but yourself if you think that statistic doesn't impact on the infection rate per head of population of a highly contagious airborne virus. Care to guess what parts of Texas has the highest rates of infection? 'Hint', It won't be one horse towns in the middle of no-where.
     
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    They're both in a spike as is the entire country.

    If all of the people who are getting sick and dying are unvaccinated, why is a state with millions more unvaccinated seeing fewer daily deaths despite the less restrictive measures?
     
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    ~ Strange occurrences indeed. But don't worry . The CDC, WHO, NIH and Fauci will come up with some hypothesis to justify their " expert" status. Another shot to follow . :hmm:
     
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    I'll take your word that De Santis is concerned about filling up hospitals but it's quite evident De Santis' number one priority in combating Covid for a very long time has been protecting the most at risk from Covid...The elderly and those with multiple comorbidities.


    If someone doesn't want to overwhelm hospitals, why are they taking active measures to overwhelm hospitals? BTW, De Santis doesn't fall into the category of overwhelming hospitals when the goal is not to overwhelm hospitals. Federal epidemiological bureaucrats do however fall into that category.:roll:
    For instance:
    (1) Worrying about number of cases? In my estimation, approx. 75% of the population are in little to no danger from any strain of Covid infection.
    (2) Testing everyone all the time?
    (3) Extolling the virtues of mask wearing when mask wearing doesn't do anything to stop the spread of Covid?
    (4) Firing hospital employees (heck, firing any employee) who don't get fully vaccinated?
    (5) Placing such a high emphasis on vaccinations which don't treat the current variant of Covid and permanently, experimentally and chemically change the immune system with each jab? Especially when there are zero studies to investigate the effects of each jab on the immune system? Note: It's quite important that vaccines don't address the needs of the current variant of Covid since some dopes, IMO, are so interested in bringing down the number of cases...even of Omicron.:roll:
     
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    Nope, vaccine is better.
     
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    This is actually pretty easy. Since the end of 2020, when vaccines started to become available in the US, New York has had about 25,000 COVID deaths. Texas has had 50,000. I'm not a genius at maths, but with Texas having 29 million people & NY having 20 million that means Texas is doing WAY worse since vaccinations became available.

    However, vaccination did not become widespread in the US for a few months. So, lets flash forward to May 1, 2021. By that point about 300 million doses had been injected. So, how they doing? Well, Texas has had 28,000 deaths & New York 11,000. That is over 2.5 to 1.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    Damn! So the poorly vaccinated folk of Texas have been dying at over two and a half times the rate of the better vaccinated folk of New York. Seems like the sort of thing people should check before making a bunch of poorly sourced claims....but we all know that isn't going to happen.
     
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    You may want to check out the hospitalization rates of countries like Israel and Chile, for examples, who have total population full vaccination rates of approx. 60%.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robert...eres-why-the-us-should-worry/?sh=1dfdab75d677
     
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    Because the vaccine is treating the variant of Covid which has burned itself out while not treating the current Covid variant? :roll: BTW, why are there still dopes who believe number of cases is the most important statistic to follow?
     
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    So why is NYC currently leading the nation in per capita COVID deaths?
     
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    Exactly. As it happens, I ran the numbers a couple of days ago (to Jan 23) for a couple of states, and deaths per 100K came out as follows:

    Since the vaccine roll-out (Dec14):

    New York - 28,094 = 144
    California - 57,918 = 147
    Texas - 53,787 = 185 = 28% higher than NY
    Florida - 42,694 = 199 = 38% higher than NY

    I then, like you, fast-forwarded to give the vaccine time to bake in, and rates from July 1 came out as follows:

    New York - 9,805 = 50
    California - 15,839 = 40
    Texas - 25,783 - 89 = 78% higher than NY
    Florida - 25,700 - 120 = 140% higher than NY

    It is of course not valid to make a judgement based on a couple of weeks, especially on deaths.
     
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    Since the virus is spread by personal contact, clearly Texans don't hug as often.:hug:
     
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    the sheep on the left would get their 4th, 5th, and six jabs by the end of this week if they were told to.
     
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    ~ Very true and very sad ...
     
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    Amazing what you learn when you ask the right questions. It is almost as if some people deliberately ask the wrong questions in order to get the answer they decided was true before they even started. I notice the OP is studiously avoiding any discussion of death rates since vaccination began.

    Vaccination works. Not perfectly and under all circumstances, but better than not vaccinating.
     
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    ~ Not this vaccine. There are more reports coming that show an alarming increase of infection in the vaccinated. As yet we do not know the risk to benefit ratio .
    Stay tuned ... :pc:
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    The percentage of people who are seriously ill, in ICU and dying is disproportionately high among those who are not vaccinated. It is also higher among those who have only had one shot or not had their booster.

    Probably time for you to post another meme. That will make the facts go away.
     
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    ~ We are no longer certain about these statistics and records - especially in the USA. There are too many deaths of the vaccinated to trust the authorities. It also appears that those getting infected the most are vaccinated .
    In particular children should not be vaccinated as there is no need .

    :aww: Here is the meme you asked for :
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    OK, so you have just decided to make up whatever suits you. Again, not shocking anyone. I can see why you are so fond of memes.
     
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    It’s very sad. Their gods, the government, told them vaccines keep them safe. So they’ll never question why New York had almost 400 Covid deaths yesterday while unvaccinated, open Florida had 3.

    the virus is targeting the unvaccinated….and that’s it.
     
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    ~ I am fond of a sense of humor. Not allowed in the "Progressive " sect .
     

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