Texas Muslim Charged with Conspiring with Her Family to Kill Her Sister for Converting

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  1. Paul7

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    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/11/...ill-her-sister-for-converting-to-christianity

    Such a peaceful religion. Why is anyone surprised Muslims in the US do what Muslims overseas do? They're all reading out of the same Koran.

    "A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57). The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law according to all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence.

    This is still the position of all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence, both Sunni and Shi’ite. Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the most renowned and prominent Muslim cleric in the world, has stated: “The Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-‘ashriyyah, Al-Ja’fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed.”

    Qaradawi also once famously said: “If they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment, Islam wouldn’t exist today.”
     
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    That rule is biblical and you claim to believe in the Bible but refuse to do what it says.
     
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    Nothing surprizing. There is around ten countries that punish the fact of leaving islam by death. Muslim countries are also the only one to punish blasphemy by death, they're basically the same countries that have death penalty for apostates.

    This girl is very brave. Congratulation to her.
     
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    No it doesn't, or did you just make that up? I suspect you're referring to inhabitants of the OT theocracy of Israel, which doesn't exist anymore. Instead of lying, why don't you start a thread on Christianity where you can vent your hate?
     
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    Yo
    You can cherry pick all the religions and come up with intolerance. But using the actions of 5% of a group is a pretty ignorant way to judge people. Just google, “Christian man kills daughter ...”.
     
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    Wasn't because of the teachings of Jesus, unlike the OP following their religion. It isn't just 5% who hold extreme views, 85% of supposedly moderate Egyptian Muslims think 'apostates' should be killed.
     
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    Considering the number of muslim countries that practice death penalty against apostates, there is clearly a difference today considering the position toward religious freedom. Not saying that all muslims are bloodthirsty, not saying that all christians are nice tolerant people, but there is clearly a difference.
     
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    I have never under Christians and Muslims convert or kill attitude, who cares what other people believe
     
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    the nuts will always pick out the nutty stuff from their texts, time for both religions to edit this stuff out of future copies

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Chronicles+15:13&version=KJV

    2 Chronicles 15:13

    King James Version (KJV)

    13That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
     
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    INB4 "Islam is just as non-violent as any other religi..."

    Nevermind. Too late.
     
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    Again, out of ignorance or deliberate misrepresentation, you pretend that applies to Christians today. Do you see anyone doing that, Muslim-style?
     
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    Good thing Christians were never told to do this! God through the man called christ spoke directly to common people and cleared things up

    Then later on Mohammed went 180 and created a religion counter to the teachings of god through his son.

    I think mohammed may have been representing the old Satan, the inglorious liar who appealed to the base side of human nature .

    There is little in islam that looks to be inspired by goodness It seems to be steeped in death and violence with many rules. Christ didnt give people dietary rules. But scoffed at the silliness.

    God doesn't give a damn what kind of food you eat. Only some men who want to control others care.

    Islam stole from and copied old judaism . Nothing original in it. Copy cats. And they kept what the jews had discarded the crazy stuff.
     
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    Where did Jesus promote that 'Christian' covert or kill thing, or did you just make that up?
     
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    OK, will you go on record and list the books of the Bible that don't apply to you as a Christian? Then take those books and throw them into the garbage because they mean nothing to you. That way I will be sure to only refer to the books that you believe in so that you won't get upset.
     
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    sadly some Christians believe this was God's word as it's in their bible, but agree, most don't that goodness, still should be removed

    yep, Muslims should remove it from their texts too - same with the Jewish texts that both these middle eastern religions are based on
     
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    already posted one link, but many in the bible


    "And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him. Leviticus 24:16"

    "If there be found among you ... that ... hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them ... Then shalt thou ... tone them with stones, till they die. Deuteronomy 17:2-5"

    "If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers ... thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die. Deuteronomy "13:5-10
     
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    the OT is still your God right? if not, maybe they should remove the OT from the bible....
     
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    Again, out of ignorance or deliberate misrepresentation, you pretend that is not in the Christian bible and indeed what they believe is the word of their God
     
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    And what Muhammad said applied to a specific time and place as well. There are some Muslims who try to apply it to today as a way to have power over others. Islam, as a whole, does not set out on a quest to force conversions.
     
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    There's a few twisted members in just about every culture, but you an't help but be disgusted when this kind of medieval barbarianism rears its ugly head in the 21st century.
     
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    If the OT doesn't matter, why are far right Christians always quoting it to justify forcing their ideals on everyone else?
     
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    Somewhat related....Anyone notice atheist never sue Muslims?
     
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    When Muslims go around forcing their religious on school children, and forcing the taxpayers to pay for religious displays on pubic land, they will.
     
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    I guess that will be about the same time that those of you on the left, start to sling vitriol in their direction...
     

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